@eforman
read
http://spiffie.org/electronics/archives/microcontrollers/Have%20a%20KB%20on%20me!.html
http://spiffie.org/know/arduino_1k_bootloader/acknowledgments.shtml
maybe you can ask there too.
I am lazy and I am working with 168 so I do not need to try the mega8. They solved my problem and I say thank you and I am using it