[quote author=Nick Gammon link=topic=134097.msg1009591#msg1009591 date=1353881550]
mysteredding:
Atmega chip programmer.
Written by Nick Gammon.Atmega chip programmer.
Written by Nick Gammon.
Right. That indicates that you are not succesfully "talking" to the target chip. I think the wiring is the same as the Atmega328 so your wiring should exactly match the photo above.
[/quote]ive read your second tutorial and im guessing my 3rd party order has a pre-loaded bootloader to need a crystal, ive got some rip-outs(salvaged from old electronics) ive got a 13.#### mhz it fits onto that 4-20 range but am very limited on capacitors to use with it, are the capacitor numbers crucial to the crystal? or can i use some 47pico? and im not even sure about that number either i bought em took em out of package and forgot about em for a good while