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TomGeorge

does the Australian Flu make your dizzy head spin the other direction? ;)

~Travis
LOL... I don't know that's for you Northern Hemisphere residents to find out, but it could do.
Its when you start hallucinating about drop bears and saying;  
"stone the flamin crows"
"giday mate"
"Aussie Aussie Aussie, Oi Oi Oi.."
and
"A dingo took my baby."
You definitely have it.
Everything runs on smoke, let the smoke out, it stops running....

travis_farmer

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rfid_reader (Library), ServerTempCtrl (Project)

ardly

You could also hypothesize that pharmaceutical companies distributed plain saline while charging for flu vaccine...
You would have to be pretty cynical to go for that as a conspiracy theory.

Given the scale of the risk it is strange that Government bodies both national and international have not pumped more money into faster methods of vaccine development.

Normal seasonal flu accounts for 250,000 - 500,000 deaths a year worldwide. The last two nasty pandemics lead to 1M-4M deaths (the 2009-10 swine flu was a damp squib). The Spanish flu of 1918-19 was in an altogether different league. It killed an estimated 50M-100M people even though there was a much smaller world population back then. People would get ill in the morning and be dead by the evening. There were not enough coffins to bury the dead. Entire communities died in places.

Without a vaccine we are presently in a much worse position than in 1918. There is a larger population, the disease will travel faster, there is less local food production, and hospitals don't have nearly enough oxygen supplies to cope.

It is the emergence of a flu strain similar to the one in 1918 that gives virologists nightmares as they consider it inevitable at some point. A world in which 3-6% of the world population was killed by flu would be a very different place.



"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley

Henry_Best

"Australian Flu", thats the first time I've ever heard of that strain, but it did come from Australia.
It literally got on board a plane and flew to the UK.
The 'strine strain?

TomGeorge

#19
Feb 14, 2018, 10:08 pm Last Edit: Feb 14, 2018, 10:09 pm by TomGeorge
The 'strine strain?

'strewth.."  LOL
I think you have "a kangaroo loose in the top paddock!"

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"Australian Flu", thats the first time I've ever heard of that strain,
I just re-read that, I meant when the term was first used last year (2017) was the first time I'd heard it used.

Its all a conspiracy for Aussie domination of the world.

All we will eventually be able to do is broadcast;
"Aussie Aussie Aussie"
and the whole world will respond;
"Oi Oi Oi.."
Ohh the power........ :smiley-evil: :smiley-evil: :smiley-evil:
Everything runs on smoke, let the smoke out, it stops running....

travis_farmer

All we will eventually be able to do is broadcast;
"Aussie Aussie Aussie"
and the whole world will respond;
"Oi Oi Oi.."
Ohh the power........ :smiley-evil: :smiley-evil: :smiley-evil:
not sure if i want you as a guest on my internet radio station, after that comment.  :o ;)

~Travis
My GitHub: https://github.com/travisfarmer?tab=repositories
rfid_reader (Library), ServerTempCtrl (Project)

TomGeorge

not sure if i want you as a guest on my internet radio station, after that comment.  :o ;)

~Travis
ohhhh !!!!! :o :o :o



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Seems that no one takes me serirousry

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I'm off to work.. 
Tom... :)
PS. "Someone has to keep the wheels of commerce turning around here.."
Everything runs on smoke, let the smoke out, it stops running....

travis_farmer

PS. "Someone has to keep the wheels of commerce turning around here.."
:P

~Travis
My GitHub: https://github.com/travisfarmer?tab=repositories
rfid_reader (Library), ServerTempCtrl (Project)

ChrisTenone

does the Australian Flu make your dizzy head spin the other direction? ;)

~Travis
That's funny! Scientifically misleading, but funny.

The problem with viruses (or from their perspective, the good thing) is that they can mutate very fast. And the faster we learn to combat them, the better they get at mutating to a more virulent form. I'm pretty sure they will win.
Wubba lubba dub dub!

Boardburner2

#24
Feb 15, 2018, 09:23 pm Last Edit: Feb 15, 2018, 09:53 pm by Boardburner2
Another problem with flu is secondary infections.
I suffer badly from sinuositis, i am dependent on antibiotics and a bad case can have me in bed for many weeks.
Luckily i have managed to avoid it for 20 years or so.

I recall a comment that existing antibiotics are only three or four mutations of bugs to render them largely useless.

EDIT

This problem has already become evident with MRSA which is resistant to all antibiotics.
What for some is a case of strep throat can become fatal to others.
New antibiotics are very seldom found , although there has been a promising discovery in the last few days.Remains to be seen though as promising discoveries seldom pan out.

This is a fairly sobering article.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/23/number-of-new-antibiotics-has-fallen-sharply-since-2000

ardly

Another problem with flu is secondary infections.
I suffer badly from sinuositis, i am dependent on antibiotics and a bad case can have me in bed for many weeks.
Luckily i have managed to avoid it for 20 years or so.

I recall a comment that existing antibiotics are only three or four mutations of bugs to render them largely useless.

EDIT

This problem has already become evident with MRSA which is resistant to all antibiotics.
What for some is a case of strep throat can become fatal to others.
New antibiotics are very seldom found , although there has been a promising discovery in the last few days.Remains to be seen though as promising discoveries seldom pan out.

This is a fairly sobering article.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2018/jan/23/number-of-new-antibiotics-has-fallen-sharply-since-2000
Any yet antibiotics are still being fed to animals !!!!!!!!!

I went from being in good health to being a wreck in under 12 hours because of a bacterial infection. Boy was I glad to get antibiotics and that they were so effective. It made me really appreciate what a fantastic thing they are.

Recently I heard about a couple of weird things;

One is for looking at bacterial infections in the lungs such as might cause pneumonia following  flu. A chemical is inhaled  and then a fine optic fibre is used to look for infection inside the lung. Apparently this has not been done before.

The really strange one though is what I think of as barnacles. Blood can be passed through filters to remove bacteria and even cancer cells, but the filtering process is not particularly efficient. Enter the barnacles. These are nano-scale devices that grab passing bacteria and cancer cells. The arms of the barnacles are coated to attract them to the targets  which they grab from the passing blood and capture.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley

Boardburner2

#26
Feb 16, 2018, 11:40 am Last Edit: Feb 16, 2018, 11:40 am by Boardburner2
Any yet antibiotics are still being fed to animals !!!!!!!!!





It's an Orwellian plot.
The animals are secretly breeding antibiotic germs to finish us off.

I went from being in good health to being a wreck in under 12 hours because of a bacterial infection. Boy was I glad to get antibiotics and that they were so effective. It made me really appreciate what a fantastic thing they are.



Ditto. penicillin and erithromycin both failed for me.
Had i had MRSA it think i would have been a goner.

ardly

Apparently KFC in the UK has almost completely closed down because they don't have any chicken!

That made me think of another problem with flu. If a pandemic like the 1918 one is caused by a bird flu strain then we would end up culling every domestic chicken on the planet.

The name of the Pale horse will be 'Flu' and the Black horse will follow, beside those two the Red horse is just a harmless foal :smiley-evil:

P.S.

Q: How did KFC repudiate claims that their chickens are abused and tortured?
A: Our chickens are not abused and Waterboarding is not torture!


"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley

robtillaart

#28
Today at 07:44 pm Last Edit: Today at 07:45 pm by robtillaart
If a flu like in 1918 would hit our world, the impact would be devastating.

The biggest difference is that we travel more faster and further.
At any given day about a million people are in planes.

virusses conquer the world now in days(hours?) instead of months/years.
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