I tested the serial uploading programs to a bootloaded 328 with the ide, I had to reinstall the driver I guess with different firmware it was a different version, still neeed to try the isp, unfortunately I gotta wait for some female-female jumpers to come, I dont have anything to bootleg to the pins other than female headers and that gets messy and wastes headers lol,
I haven't used arduino as isp before but would a 328 instead of a 328p cause problems with the signature?