I just can't get over how easy this seems but its kicking my ass......I mean, I have the BUtton state and all that...and with the ++ it works great incrementing...I even took the wire from the other button I'm trying to use as the 'Down counter" and it make the count go up...so somewhere in my code there needs to have some "--" decrementing, but I can't figure it out...hardware is good...its my code I need to fix....somebody out there has got to know..