What's with the response to Sandy's victims ?

In the 70s we had a truck blockade of Sydney (drivers wanted better conditions or something), within days there was panic.

We're not as far removed from total chaos as most people would like to think.

You guys get real life-threatening cold that compounds things. We never really get so cold that a good jacket can't handle it, one reason I like living up north.


Rob

Graynomad:
You guys get real life-threatening cold that compounds things. We never really get so cold that a good jacket can't handle it, one reason I like living up north.


Rob

I'm disappointed in myself. It took my mind a whole 5 minutes to figure out how you could get warmer by going north.

wizdum:

Graynomad:
You guys get real life-threatening cold that compounds things. We never really get so cold that a good jacket can't handle it, one reason I like living up north.


Rob

I'm disappointed in myself. It took my mind a whole 5 minutes to figure out how you could get warmer by going north.

Yea, and their toilet water when flushed spin backwards so we have to give them a lot of some leeway in their comments. :wink:
At least cold is cold and hot is hot so we can bank on that I guess.

Lefty

Hey, I can't help it if you blokes are upside down.


Rob

I'd rather have killer storms than killer bushfires...

I'm down in the city and I hate it, but I still go into panic mode for a second when I get a wiff of smoke.

Funny you should mention that, I can't see the hills at the moment for smoke. I hope it's just someone burning off.


Rob

nr Bundaberg

There's a place called Bundaberg?
Wow! - that's like finding there's a place called "Jack Daniels" or "Famous Grouse"!

Just where do you think the rum is made :slight_smile:

No good to me though, I can't stand the stuff.


Rob

Some day they totally privatize emergency services here. Then the people who are paid up get help until the profit margin drops and the service declares bankruptcy, leaving the government/taxpayers to pick up the tab as usual. Those who aren't paid up will be known as 'Cranicks' and be mocked by talk radio conservatives.
But that won't be happening soon. :grin:

Grey Nomad, what do you think of methane digesters? Any organic waste like kitchen scraps or vegetation off the roadside can in time make fuel, and the 'waste' liquid is good fertilizer. Unlike an aquaponics setup you can probably drive around with a decent size digester on your truck.

I don't really know anything about them. Many (some?) of our rubbish tips here have methane reclamation. I'm all for stuff that will make us more independent, I was going to beta test a grey water recycling system a few years ago, but they couldn't get it small enough.

As for Armageddon, I already have the Mad Max vehicle and 6 months supply of home brew ingredients, bring it on.


Rob

Check Youtube, search on methane digester.

Like this on, I link because his parting words on the science are worth a lot.

One thing I don't see is anyone using weather balloons to store methane or catch pressure release.

That looks interesting, we certainly have a lot of cow crap around here to get it started. Maybe when/if I settle down.


Rob

Why isn't the national guard and the Army all over these places like a rash with generators, fuel tankers, mess facilities with free hot meals, field hospitals, whatever is needed.

It is a question of what you think the role of the government should be.

There is a case to be made that people will remain stupid if stupidity is rewarded.

Many times, the best help you can give people is not to help them.

We already see the results when GREED is rewarded.

We already see the results when GREED is rewarded.

Yes, just look at all those people capitalism / greed has lifted out of poverty.

Oh good, a class warfare food fight right here on the Arduino forum. :roll_eyes:

Lefty

The results I'm talking about aren't class warfare but runaway pollution and catastrophic global warming.

But storms like Sandy are -really- God's plan for the lazy-azz poor because science is just opinion.

It's natural (and right I think) for people to want to better themselves and their situation. It turns into greed when said people have more than they can ever use and yet want even more.

Anyone read the Mexican fisherman story? It's a classic.


Rob

It turns into greed

Without greed, 99.9% of what we rely on daily wouldn't have been available to you and me.

Graynomad:
It's natural (and right I think) for people to want to better themselves and their situation. It turns into greed when said people have more than they can ever use and yet want even more.

Anyone read the Mexican fisherman story? It's a classic.


Rob

Very NSFW comedian, Lewis Black, on Greed:

"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Take his fish away and tell him he's lucky just to be alive, and he'll figure out how to catch another one for you to take tomorrow."