Highly Anticipated 32-bit "Due" due When?

westfw:

The answer I heard (I think) is that the Due will have it's own independent IDE

Hmm. That's now how I interpreted what he said. I got more "we've incorporated the (chipkit) multiplatform capabilities in a way that we're happy with."

One reason that this is less than desirable is that it will add significantly to the size of the downloads (a completely separate gcc/libc/binutils set)

We shall see I guess. The fact that they have Due boards that they are presently passing on to beta tester strongly implies that there is also a means to program them so I suspect the Due IDE is available to the beta testers so it shouldn't take much for someone to confirm a new standalone IDE or an expanded existing IDE.

Lefty

Not sure if anyone has seen these pics of the Due, so just sharing the link I ran across.

Nice find, I had seen a single pic but not that many and not that detail.


Rob

Cool, so it's a SAM3X8E! http://www.atmel.com/devices/SAM3X8E.aspx

Its highly integrated peripheral set for connectivity and communication includes Ethernet, dual CAN, HS USB MiniHost and device with on-chip PHY, high-speed SD/SDIO/MMC, and multiple USARTs, SPIs, TWIs and one I2S. The SAM3X8E also features a 12-bit ADC/DAC, temperature sensor, 32-bit timers, PWM timer and RTC. The 16-bit external bus interface supports SRAM, PSRAM, NOR and NAND Flash with error code correction.

Yeah!

The only thing that annoys me is this crappy microUSB plug... But it seems I'll have to accept that and buy more cables :wink:

dropdeaddick:
Not sure if anyone has seen these pics of the Due, so just sharing the link I ran across.

Arduino DUE | Flickr

Good photos! I took the link backwards and found pictures of "version 2" of the due? Erin RobotGrrl | Flickr

Yea those pictures were great!

Has anybody heard any new news?

Not in this universe, but I think there's a parallel one where some lucky individuals are playing with beta versions. Unfortunately so far there's been no wormhole to allow the transfer of information between the two.


Rob

Graynomad:
Not in this universe, but I think there's a parallel one where some lucky individuals are playing with beta versions. Unfortunately so far there's been no wormhole to allow the transfer of information between the two.

I'm not sure they are lucky individuals. I guess there is a "silence pact" and a lot of tests to be done.
Everybody who has been active on this forum knows how silent the core team can be. So plenty of pressure for the lucky few.
Off-course they have a beta board (they will probably own once the due is released); but how many bugs will they face given our 1.0 experience? How much time will they have invested?
I sure do not envy them :slight_smile:

Greetings from Belgium
Jantje

I sure do not envy them

Good point, it would be work really and I have my own projects to tinker with so I'm happy NOT doing it, and if lack if info is the price I pay so be it.

Off-course they have a beta board (they will probably own once the due is released)

Weeks of work for a board, I'll spend $70 or whatever when the time comes (maybe). Meanwhile I'm about to come up to speed with ARMs using LPC Xpresso boards. Not that there's much similarity because the IO is totally different but I've started writing HAL functions that should port to Arduino if I get the inclination one day.


Rob

They said it will be 90MHz? I just need it for the extra speed and such. Driving displays and such.
I certainly don't understand the software and all that jazz to be able to develop and test it.

Massimo mentions that Due will operate at 3.3V (Massimo Banzi Introduces Arduino Leonardo - YouTube). I wonder if data pins will get converted and if it is a headache to do?
Any news on when maybe?

Due will operate at 3.3V

No surprise there, I can't see them adding level converters to the board.


Rob

Thats interesting that they are speaking about their new layout considering the Due will have more of a Mega layout.

I wish they would just release the thing.

funkyguy4000:
Thats interesting that they are speaking about their new layout considering the Due will have more of a Mega layout.

Considering that Uno-sized shields can plug into already the Mega (although a number of them need to be modified/have additional wires run to function correctly), standardizing the pin so the Due can use the same pin layout as the smaller boards isn't far-fetched at all. Of course, there will probably be other pins beyond the Uno/Leonardo sized regon. However, they could all be just additional general purpose I/O pins.

I wish they would just release the thing.

Quoted for emphasis... :slight_smile:

It looks like the analog pins on the Due are a bit lower than the Digital ones

Imgur

Like the A6 + A7 are more to the right. See what I mean?
If that is what it is, then the R3 layout won't do much good.

I see your point that existing shields would cover the A6 and A7 pins (either making them hard to use or inaccessable), but remember two things. First, these are development boards and the pin layout can still be modified slightly for the commercially sold boards. Second and most importantly, the Uno only has A0 through A5 so any Uno-compatible shield would only use 6 "analog" pins. Therefore, at worst an Uno shield would cost the use of 2 analog pins, but should still function all the same.

And thirdly (no one expects the Spanish Inquisition) shields are for wimps anyway so if you are up to using a Due you are probbly beyond shields, at least the shields that exist at the moment.

Yea, thats true. I've never had a shield, although I have been considering one since its like 2 bucks and it separates a double row of 20 pins each to a point where I can smack it on a breadboard, but I don't wanna use it as a shield.

So the information that we know about the Due, is that all concrete?

funkyguy4000:
So the information that we know about the Due, is that all concrete?

I think I remember Massimo saying that they produced 100 boards for testing. So, I would say it is not concrete but perhaps slushy. XD