Another bootloader @ 3.3v & internal 8MHz clock w/SD card...

That was part of the question..

what bootloader to use that is FOR SURE 3.3v "&" internal 8MHz clock...

Lillypad? (doesnt say internal 8MHZ clock)..

I found the breadboard.txt file (finally)...

so Im going to now assume that is the only/correct one to use..

In the end I will attempt to put some ICSP 'pads' on the pcb.. no headers.. no through holes.. (not enough room)..

I 'want' to use a bootloader... I do not want to fool around with any AVRDude.. or other ways of flashing/uploading....etc

I want to keep it simple and user freindly..

that means regular USB/Arduino IDE...

and for bootloader.. my simple FTDI USB >> TTL cable

:slight_smile:

what I have and what has worked for me so far.. :wink:

I still am not clear on my questions though..

I have read many threads with conflicting info..

1.) DO YOU or DO YOU NOT need to have a 16MHz crystal/caps set-up to burn a 3.3v/8MHz bootloader? (just yesterday someone was posting on this..and he could only do it with full set-up/parts... otherwise errors?)

This will NOT be possible.. unless I flash all chips before using them assembly.. (not very practical.. to flash or test after for 328TQFP chips)

2.) DO I need to power the board with +5v or with +3.3v to flash bootloader?

etc..etc..

thanks!

man,.. I didnt even get this porject last night.. as Im 'STUCK' on this nightmare of a PROBLEM here:
http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/topic,140502.msg1057856.html#msg1057856

both schematic and brd layout posted..

powered by FTDI board works.. powered by battery +/- pads (and hence through the +5v regulator).. power led and pin 13 led blinks like crazy! together.. in tandem!

=(