fkeel:
@ wizdum & wandersonyou do realize that you are arguing different things, right?
wizdum (and I and others) are saying:
there is a problem, and ultimately the creative industry will need to come up with better ways of dealing with it than it is now.
(ok, yes, extremely simplified)wanderson (and retrolefty and others) are saying:
nothing justifies pirating.
(ok, yes, extremely simplified)its only a minority here and not even a very prolific one which claims that there is nothing wrong with pirating. (ok, we can - and have - argued about that as well.)
I guess my point is that I see these two standpoints being exchanged and neither is really a good reaction to the other. Nor do they actually contradict each other.Another thing which is constantly being mixed up is "what is right" with "what is legal"... wizdum was not saying, that the 60.000.000$ sum that guy has been fined (or whatever it was) is illegal. He is saying it is not right (ok. whats the standard. no idea.)
I am sure wanderson would respond to AlexDroidDev: "well, it may be legal, but that does not make it right. (again. whats the standard)"
Just my thoughts when skimming over the last couple of posts...
I don't agree with your summary of wizdum's posts. He has said (among many other things) that since the DMCA declares him a criminal (which it doesn't) for removing DMA on media he has purchased he 'might as well just steal the media anyway.' I also disagree that there is something wrong with the system, in particular I find fault with claiming that since people are stealing it is proof that the system is faulty argument that he seems to be making. People commit crimes, that doesn't therefore mean that the laws which define those crimes are the problem...
And there is no need in the US to rely on a higher mystical authority to decide if something is right/just/fair, our society that creates its rules define such concepts. And our society has decided that such penalties are right/just/fair. In the US these decisions are made, ultimately not by corrupt politicians, nor the corporations that line the politicians pockets, but a jury of one's peers. We have jury trials for a reason, jury's have an obligation to not only determine guilt, but also evaluate the 'fairness' of a law.