ArduDelta - delta Robot implementation

Hello. Sorry for the late answer.
And yes, i will help you, you will get an email soon.

p.s. does this project suck or there isn't at least a "good job" for me on this forum?
It is quite disappointing.

That's a pure awesome device... I'm in the process of building something sort of similar, a suspension wall plotter.. two steppers instead of three, but otherwise pretty much the same, in that the head is suspended from a variable length system under stepper control.. http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/topic,60281.0.html

How are you compensating for the difference in distances radially (in that a movement toward the center is "smaller" than a movement further away)?

I'm currently working on calculation code, which will determine location by using pythagorean theorem and then apply a "correction" to the movement, but it's not quite there yet. Your device (especially since it used three motors) is MUCH faster than mine, if you operate the steppers at a slower rate do you get increased accuracy? My largest problem is of course being suspended, it's got a bit of bounce when it moves.

In any case, TREMENDOUS job! Sweet implementation, it's quite a nice looking device on top of being functional!

body28:
Hello. Sorry for the late answer.
And yes, i will help you, you will get an email soon.

p.s. does this project suck or there isn't at least a "good job" for me on this forum?
It is quite disappointing.

okey. thanks
multumesc.

ohh, by the way, this link doesn't work : Log In | Prezi

Just signed up on the Arduino forums just to comment on this project! 8)
This is an awesome project, I've taken an interest in delta robots in the recent few months after seeing a delta cnc mill and this is a great example of how to get into a delta design with minimal costs. Congrats on the great work, I hope the lack of response on here hasn't put you off sharing your projects.

Do you think you could post a copy of the code? I'd be interested to see how it works and how you've implemented it all. If not, could you PM me with a copy, I'd like to learn more.

A very nice pick&place robot !! Give u big big hands ....... :slight_smile:

but I believe, if it can pick something a little bit heavier, i.e. 5lb or 2kg, that will make your robot even more meaningful. Now, it is nice, but ..I cant think of a way to use it, so it is nice and no more than a nice piece of hobby project.

add oil..add oil...just 1 more step, it will be a GREAT robot!!

This is a Great project!!!
solving the X Y Z coordinates into a delta system in a small amount of code takes real skills. I for one would like to see your code.
Mechanical problems that reduce repeatability are not unusual and take a great deal of effort (as in rebuilds) to resolve. A little preload to change the stress on your positioning members from compression to tensile might resolve some of your difficulties while keeping everything light weight.
This is a Great job showing a tremendous skill set.
If you decide to share your code my email is Johnk36333@hotmail.com

Yey... feedback. :smiley:

So.. one at a time:

@lusian - thanks - this link should be beter.

@Knightrous - Thank you!
Welcome to the forum i guess. :slight_smile: And yes, i will make the code public, i think
that is the essence of the Arduino. Fell free to ask if something seems weird.

@marcuschan - Thank you!
And yes, future development is planned. :smiley: The pen was mounted just to visually show what it can do.

@tinkermonkey - Thank you!
The code is posted now.

@focalist - Thank you!
Of course i know that project, at first i was simply amazed because i thought that the marker was hanging
in the air with a magnetic field. Congratulations. After i've looked closer (and listen your comments) i've
figured out what's the deal. Very nice, and very precise. And a very nice name too :smiley:
To the chase now:

  1. "How are you compensating for the difference in distances radially (in that a movement toward the center is "smaller" than a movement further away)?"
    This i don't understand. If you can explain further please, i will be happy to reply.

  2. It's so nice that your system is in a plane (like xyz plane, sorry for the english) so you only have x and y to mess with.
    That simplifies the process. I was thinking about stretching of the wire, but you said that you use fishing line, so most
    probably that isn't a problem.

  3. Yes, mine is faster, but with some costs. I can actually decrease the speed, and that makes it more accurate, but..
    i have a new problem: servo jitter. And that makes the drawing very not cool. The current speed is a compromise
    between speed and accuracy. For the future i have in plan a dedicated servo-controller.

  4. Bouncy'ness :stuck_out_tongue: . I was thinking. What about my quick sketch (the second attachment)?

  5. Thank you again. I worked very hard on this.

So the code is now public.
Notes:
I admit that the code is improvable. I have changed my mind several times
during the design, and that is reflected in the code.
Special thanks needed for this code go to: mzavatsky and jarkman especially.

deltaBot.rar (12.5 KB)

Hi There,

You have done a very good project. Congratulations. I also plan to do a Delta Robot project. Can you send me the codes and also kinematical functions for Arduino.

I thank you in advance,

Best Wishes,

Zozerk

Hello Zozerk and thank you.
The code is attached to my previous post.
The kinematic functions are also embedded in the project.

Just ask if you need more help, and good luck with your project.

Wow - beautiful work. I love the tripod-like legs, and the way they curve under to support the base plate. Simple and elegant.

May I ask - what reasons made you choose servos rather than stepper motors?

I suspect that servos will never let you get quite the accuracy you want; different servos may accelerate and decelerate at subtly different rates, and there's a lot of slack/backlash in the internal gears which doesn't matter when you're just using a servo to get from angle A to angle B, but will make a big difference if you want the combined velocity from all three to be precise and repeatable. Plus the internal gearboxes have quite a bit of 'bounce' in them, which may be hard to engineer around.

Having said that, I dread to think what the code would look like for stepper motors - it's a big leap to go from smoothly ramping three PWM signals over time, to sending out between three and six streams of variably timed pulses where the timing itself is non-trivial to work out and needs to run smoothly.

(I managed to build a crude CNC mill out of bits and pieces, and I naively thought it would simple to get an Arduino to not just act as an interface, but actually be capable of doing simple jobs itself - draw/cut circles, that sort of thing. When I actually started to have a go, I found the code waaaay more complex than I could handle. One axis, accelerating and decelerating from A to B was simple enough, but add another axis into the mix and it gets much more complicated... I gave up and started using TurboCNC. Gave me an enormous amount of respect for the guy who wrote it - there's a lot of funky maths going on in there :slight_smile:

Cool remote control and display, too. Next step: ethernet shield and a webcam, so we can all have a go at writing our names with it? :wink:

nice!
I couldn´t find the code anywhere!
can you share it?

thanks! (from Argentina)

fg

Your ball joints are very interesting. Where can I buy these joints? Thanks.

Hi, your project is awesome, I would like to have the code, is it possible?
ivan.monsao@gmail.com

Congratulations, Ivan

body28:
Hello. Sorry for the late answer.
And yes, i will help you, you will get an email soon.

p.s. does this project suck or there isn't at least a "good job" for me on this forum?
It is quite disappointing.

I feel your pain. I find this forum very dissapointing compared to other forums. I thought the Arduino community would be getting quite large by now and with alot of very freindly people. but im afraid not so. I would have thought my project biulding a Gas turbine ECU out of a MEGA and a large LCD would have generated some interested and intelligent discussion but no:(

Good job!! :slight_smile: I like it!

Hi everybody
I want to build a delta robot, but I don't know which kind of servo motors should be used. In industrial samples such as ABB's delta robot, an AC servo motor is used. I want to know the minimum power of the motors need in the delta robot. is it possible to guide me?
also could you please explain about the controller? is your controller is PC-based?
thanks

Hi !
I have developed my delta Robot. But I have one little problem.
On some positions my moving plate is not parallel to the base and it has some tilt.
Can you point out the mistake ?
Can I calculate the tilt in the moving plate ? or Can I remove that tilt ?
Looking forward for a positive reply from your side.
Regards,
Zeeshan

Hi,
Would anyone know if the use of trigonometric equations is necessary for a 4 arm Delta robot? I havent made the structure of mine yet but i think opposite arms need to move on the same direction and exactly the same amount always is this right? To lift the lower base all the servos need to move up by the same amount?

Thanks

Eric

Since you are going to know the angle (you set the servo position) and the extension, you can draw an imaginary line to the base (or the top) as one side of a right triangle.. Which is your opposing side to the known angle.

I have been working through this myself for a suspension plotter project.. You are basically doing the same thing, calculating the height of an imaginary triangle given a couple of known distances and angles. The key to all of it is making it into a calculatable triangle to determine position.

Pythagorean can take it from there..

Hello,

Awesome project. I've been building one also, but with stepper instead of servo motors. I'm a bit stuck with putting everything from matlab to arduino as the math is quite messy. Mind you sharing your code? My @mail is sharas.s@gmail.com

Regards,
Sharapolas

Hi i do the same, but i have some problems with the arduino...., can you please share the code and the electronic....
thanks for all, radicalister@gmail.com