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Forum 2005-2010 (read only) => General => Frequently-Asked Questions => Topic started by: cr0sh on Sep 09, 2010, 06:27 pm

Title: New Icon?
Post by: cr0sh on Sep 09, 2010, 06:27 pm
Last night I noticed that the site's icon changed - when and why was this decided (and why a green dot)?

:-?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: pracas on Sep 09, 2010, 06:37 pm
yes. kinda looks sick... something bluer would be better...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: amacmullen14 on Sep 09, 2010, 06:54 pm
Well, there's now a big "We've got something cooking for you" on the same color green arduino shape instead of the original arduino.

I'm gonna venture to guess that it is related...
:D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cr0sh on Sep 09, 2010, 07:06 pm
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I'm gonna venture to guess that it is related...


Hmm - I guess you're right.

Which brings up another question - how many people on these forums go to the front page of the site? I know I rarely do; one would think the "A-Team" would at least announce site changes (and I don't know - things like the release of a new version of the Arduino IDE, as so recently happened) in the News section of this forum.

But they don't. What's the point of even having a News section, then?

:-?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: amacmullen14 on Sep 09, 2010, 07:35 pm
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Which brings up another question - how many people on these forums go to the front page of the site?


I do, there's 1.
I just never got around to bookmarking the forum.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: lestofante on Sep 09, 2010, 07:56 pm
All the site's page has a blue strip and the string. So if you're going to reference or anywhere you'll see it :-)

now the question is... maybe a new arduino? maybe with enough power to elaborate images? a multi core arduino? or a new IDE?  ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 09, 2010, 08:47 pm
maybe a new banner on the website!
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: bld on Sep 09, 2010, 09:33 pm
Quad core arduino with 6gb ram, 60gb ssd and on board 1gbit nic...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Nachtwind on Sep 09, 2010, 09:55 pm
finally a new forum?


...or just another theme for the forums (i hope not!)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: lestofante on Sep 09, 2010, 09:56 pm
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Quad core arduino with 6gb ram, 60gb ssd and on board 1gbit nic...

obviously it will cost 10?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Tchnclfl on Sep 09, 2010, 09:57 pm
I go to the homepage :).  As the covered the Arduino in the picture with the color, I think it's probably a 2010 Arduino. (Duemiladiece? :P)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Imahilus on Sep 09, 2010, 10:37 pm
Deca-core arduino with on-board wifi and wireless power, 64tb memory, 512tb hard-disk space, 128quant-bit bus system, native jump gate support....

Yes, it will be a grand arduino!
I'm just hoping they won't take too long to develop a flux capacitor shield for it  ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Sep 09, 2010, 10:49 pm
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when and why was this decided (and why a green dot)?


Do you see this as green, I see it as more of a turquoise / blue. I am running fire fox. My wife just suggested "kingfisher" but I said no we are all men.  ;)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 09, 2010, 11:45 pm
yea its more turquoise

Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Tchnclfl on Sep 10, 2010, 12:10 am
Indeed it is.  Not quite blue, not quite green.

Is "kingfisher"  supposed to be a color? :O  Must be like mauve...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Sep 10, 2010, 12:12 am
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Is "kingfisher"  supposed to be a color?


Yes but not a man colour it's a girl colour. Ask your girl (if you have one)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 10, 2010, 12:40 am
I asked the wife, she said "what" ... must be a British thing

after googling it I see the resemblance tween the color and the bird
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: kraig on Sep 10, 2010, 12:42 am
I will have to wait to see what is it. My Arduino order gonna wait. If it's something really important (new arduino :D ? ) or even new software, I would be so disapointed if I ordered the old thing.


But maybe thats just a theme.

On other thought, they did mentionned something about food...yumm :P
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Sep 10, 2010, 12:43 am
Just put 'kingfisher blue' into google, lots of US sites seem to know about it.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 10, 2010, 12:45 am
hehe now I am going to poke

at the top of the results I see a bird, which is one of many colors that it can be, including turquoise which is what I saw,  a dress, and a MINI
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cr0sh on Sep 10, 2010, 01:00 am
Ok, it isn't green - seems closest to "teal"...?

::)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 10, 2010, 01:20 am
teal yes that is it! it all makes since now!

teal is 4 letters, add up their decimal values you get 422

add the letters in the words "arduino" and "Duemilanove" you end up with 18

take 422 and devide it by 18 which gives you 23.4

take 0.4 * 4 (again teal is the answer) and you end up with 1.6

now take 23.4 and add the letter count of arduino (7) + 1.6 and you get


[size=24]32[/size]

OMFG we are getting a 32 bit arduino!
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: amacmullen14 on Sep 10, 2010, 02:24 am
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teal yes that is it! it all makes since now!

teal is 4 letters, add up their decimal values you get 422

add the letters in the words "arduino" and "Duemilanove" you end up with 18

take 422 and devide it by 18 which gives you 23.4

take 0.4 * 4 (again teal is the answer) and you end up with 1.6

now take 23.4 and add the letter count of arduino (7) + 1.6 and you get


32

OMFG we are getting a 32 bit arduino!


BRILLIANT!!!!!

I'm still gonna guess though that it will be an edible arduino.  I mean, look at their choice of idiom, cooking!

I can't wait to make my mom a cake with blinky lights on it!  Gotta make sure to use lead free solder though.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: jezuz on Sep 10, 2010, 06:29 am
I think we will need a little help on this one:

http://www.centerkey.com/colors/

Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: westfw on Sep 10, 2010, 06:39 am
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My Arduino order gonna wait.
"Osbourne effect" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 10, 2010, 06:46 am
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I think we will need a little help on this one:


colorzilla says its #00979E

which is not listed on your 256 web safe colors chart with opinionated  names

32 :D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Nachtwind on Sep 10, 2010, 08:11 am
maybe some ARM Arduino? Finally?

In the end it will be just a new website - why else having a new logo?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Sep 10, 2010, 09:55 am
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Gotta make sure to use lead free solder though.


Why on earth !!!!

Lead free solder is the invention of the devil, it makes devices have a shorter life and increases the energy needed to manufacturer things.

Conventional solder poses no health hazard and the amount used in electronics compared to automobile battery use is stupidly vanishingly small.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cowjam on Sep 10, 2010, 11:07 am
I wouldn't get too excited.  The arduino in the pic had a serial port.  Maybe they're just replacing it with  a pic of one with a USB port.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: lestofante on Sep 10, 2010, 11:52 am
probabily it's an arduino with enougth power that create enougth heat to boil the water for the pasta...
add some extravirgin oil, pepper, a bit of Grana cheese and salt, and it's ready!
then it can also usaed to make some coffe, obviusly only expresso (hardware limitation)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Eight on Sep 10, 2010, 12:26 pm
32-bit is bound to happen sooner or later... I'm hoping it's now. I'd also like a Von Neumann architecture... that'd be an early christmas present for me.

In general, I'm really struggling to see what they could add to a Duemilanove to create a 2010 release. I mean, when you look at what it's supposed to do, it's damn near perfect.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cowjam on Sep 10, 2010, 12:47 pm
More RAM would be nice, but then programming to the constraints of the board is part of the fun.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 10, 2010, 01:23 pm
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Which brings up another question - how many people on these forums go to the front page of the site? I know I rarely do; one would think the "A-Team" would at least announce site changes (and I don't know - things like the release of a new version of the Arduino IDE, as so recently happened) in the News section of this forum.

But they don't. What's the point of even having a News section, then?

I never visit the front page, and I don't get the point of the news section either. I mean, we can't post new threads there now (presumably cos it was just used as a place advertise arduino related products) and it never gets used for anything (like arduino IDE updates)

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but then programming to the constraints of the board is part of the fun.

Sometimes  ;)

Mowcius
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 10, 2010, 01:25 pm
Maybe they'll eventually release the arduino with on-board ethernet too... Massimo had some pics 45 months ago of one but it never made it into mass manufacture. Hell I'd be buying one.

Mowcius
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: admin on Sep 10, 2010, 01:39 pm
I give up...

we're going to launch an Arduino that removes silly comments from the forum :)

m
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 10, 2010, 01:51 pm
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I give up...

we're going to launch an Arduino that removes silly comments from the forum

Haha, there'd be no forum then  ;D

[edit]You got a script that alerts you whenever someone says "massimo" or were you just hiding, secretly reading this thread?[/edit]
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cowjam on Sep 10, 2010, 02:30 pm
Arduino with ethernet would be cool.  Most of the stuff I do needs ethernet and the shields aren't cheap.

Silly comment removal? Uh oh.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: admin on Sep 10, 2010, 02:35 pm
I was alerted by a human agent... :)

Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: gonzogeek on Sep 10, 2010, 04:05 pm
+1 turquoise ... oh ok "sea green" at a push
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 10, 2010, 04:11 pm
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Arduino with ethernet would be cool.  Most of the stuff I do needs ethernet and the shields aren't cheap.

(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/91/332713810_c131d81144.jpg)

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I was alerted by a human agent...

I wish I had an agent...  :-? Hmm...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: gonzogeek on Sep 10, 2010, 04:13 pm
>Why on earth !!!!

>Lead free solder is the invention of the devil,

Wha?! You mean we have a choice?

I freakin hate lead free solder ... I mean I used to be *able to solder*. Now I just kill tips and fry components at an alarming rate.

Can you still get lead free solder in the EU/UK?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Grumpy_Mike on Sep 10, 2010, 04:17 pm
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Can you still get lead free solder in the EU/UK?


Yes you can. It's just you can't sell new stuff with it that's all. You can repair old stuff with it and you can make stuff for yourself or give it away, it's just you are not supposed to sell stuff. There are exceptions for things like development kits which I assume the arduino comes under.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: UltraMagnus on Sep 10, 2010, 04:30 pm
The arduino would be exempt from ROHS as either an industrial tool or a sub-assembly.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: pluggy on Sep 10, 2010, 08:27 pm
They're going to put a Duemilanove up there instead of the old serial arduino from the dawn of time.....     ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: donkahones on Sep 10, 2010, 09:56 pm
I think they did this just to watch us squirm   :-/
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Honk on Sep 10, 2010, 10:04 pm
Hehe, the 32 bit calculation made me laugh off my chair!

I really hope for a ARM Arduino, then we could implement really nice fast filters (DCM/Kalman for example) and other fun stuff.

I also hope for something with higher res ADC's!

Would be extremely disappointing if it's just the "new" color, but that was actually the default desktop color of Windows 95! I hated Windows 95.

When will we KNOW what's cooking?! This is torture!!!  :'(
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 10, 2010, 10:07 pm
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I hated Windows 95.

Ahh, Windows 95, better than sliced bread  ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 10, 2010, 10:11 pm
I have it on floppy disk, its almost as big as a loaf of sliced bread

32 :D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 10, 2010, 10:12 pm
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I have it on floppy disk, its almost as big as a loaf of sliced bread

You see, now I'm moving with the times, I have it on a few 3.5" floppies...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Honk on Sep 10, 2010, 10:13 pm
Well, if you think so, I believe the Arduino Crew can certainly make you a "Arduino 95 Edition". It features support for a ball mouse and Ctrl + Alt + Delete buttons and has a special script to hang itself and beep if you touch it!  ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 10, 2010, 10:15 pm
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Well, if you think so, I believe the Arduino Crew can certainly make you a "Arduino 95 Edition". It features support for a ball mouse and Ctrl + Alt + Delete buttons and has a special script to hang itself and beep if you touch it!

Yeah I loved it, made such a nice blue mood light.  ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 10, 2010, 10:35 pm
heh yea best paperweight money can buy, and I have it on 3.5inch, its like 13 floppies
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: TheLaw on Sep 11, 2010, 09:52 pm
I'm assuming its just going to be a new board. Maybe a 644 or a 1280 on the basic USB board and a 2560 for the Megas!
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: amacmullen14 on Sep 11, 2010, 10:49 pm
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I'm assuming its just going to be a new board. Maybe a 644 or a 1280 on the basic USB board and a 2560 for the Megas!



Are you ignoring what we already decided it will be?
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Well, if you think so, I believe the Arduino Crew can certainly make you a "Arduino 95 Edition". It features support for a ball mouse and Ctrl + Alt + Delete buttons and has a special script to hang itself and beep if you touch it



And on a totally random side note, guess what song I have stuck in my head!:
hint:  Ra-urrh,rah,rah-urrh ,Rah,ja-urh-ur-ra.  Ra-urrh,rah,rah-urrh, rah, rah, ur-rah urh rarara!!!!!!
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cr0sh on Sep 11, 2010, 11:08 pm
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And on a totally random side note, guess what song I have stuck in my head!:
hint:  Ra-urrh,rah,rah-urrh ,Rah,ja-urh-ur-ra!!!!!!


Lady Gaga, Bad Romance?

;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: DojoDave on Sep 11, 2010, 11:52 pm
http://arduino.cc/blog/?p=680

/d
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 11, 2010, 11:57 pm
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Lady Gaga, Bad Romance?

How on earth did you get that from what he said?
Maybe it's right but I have no idea...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: amacmullen14 on Sep 12, 2010, 12:18 am
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Lady Gaga, Bad Romance?


Nope!
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 12, 2010, 12:32 am
tbh I thought the same thing
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: westfw on Sep 12, 2010, 01:38 am
Aw gee, it will take all the fun out of things; I expect that most people will be able to spell "Uno" !
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: P18F4550 on Sep 12, 2010, 02:11 am
A 40mhz arduino would be nice, bring it inline with the rest of the world, or maybe a PIC based Arduino emulator, incidently my 18F4550 runs @ 96mhz with PLL multiplyers, theres no reason why Arduino shouldn't be  the same, although im not familar with the Atmel range of devices
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: lestofante on Sep 12, 2010, 02:31 am
uno means 1 (one) and you have to spell it like U - N  - O (obviously with Italian pronunciations, and a big gravy stain on your singlet)

be aware of the imitation: probably they are better ;D ;D ;D  :P


ps. maybe a 1ghz / 1khz / 1hz arduino?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 12, 2010, 03:44 am
my pic32 runs at 80Mhz, most of the 32 bit atmel chips run at 66mhz and that is fine with me

course you know my whole poking the 32 is really an amusement, even if they did do a 32 bit arduino it would be a different product, the 8 bit is just so right for so many applications, and I would be disappointed if continuing development were to stop

also 32 bit development is a ton more stuff to cover, we get the same basic questions mulitiple times a day (and that is not bad, just means more noobies coming into the scene) but take that and multiply it by complexity and ability

just like most people will tell you to learn the 8 bit chips first then when your ready move up to more complex models, arduino is a great and capibible platform to introduce you to the whole world of whats going on, at time goes and personal desire grows, maybe the user will advance into avrgcc and on up to bigger and more complex chips

arduino serves as a great introduction that many may never out grow (and thats fine too, if the shoe fits...)

honestly if something like stickOS basic on freescale and pic32 (which I use) were to get a little bit more advanced, and it is (I have recently talked to the creator of that) it would fill the void tween arduino and hard core, needle and magnet 32 bit development just fine (other than I friggen hate basic, its nice to copy n paste a basic program out of gedit and drive a vga monitor with squat thought)

aside from the lack of usb support with stickOS on usb ready devices if you want 32 bit RIGHT NOW! with arduino ease you cant beat it, heck its even a ROTS on top of it with a runtime compiler, you can fart around all day and never write flash once (I think it can multitask too, in a simple way)

http://www.cpustick.com/
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: kraig on Sep 12, 2010, 05:28 am
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Aw gee, it will take all the fun out of things; I expect that most people will be able to spell "Uno" !

I can't even say it. That is why I always loose at that card game...  :-/
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: UltraMagnus on Sep 12, 2010, 10:24 am
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A 40mhz arduino would be nice, bring it inline with the rest of the world, or maybe a PIC based Arduino emulator, incidently my 18F4550 runs @ 96mhz with PLL multiplyers, theres no reason why Arduino shouldn't be  the same, although im not familar with the Atmel range of devices


One thing to remember about PICs vs AVRs is that a PIC executes an instruction every 4 clock cycles, whereas AVRs execute an instruction every clock cycle.  So your 40Mhz PIC is only equivalent to a 10Mhz AVR.

(of course, this only applies to PIC18s, PIC24s execute an instruction every clock cycle)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 12, 2010, 10:30 am
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1hz arduino?

hmm, 1 instruction every second...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: furqan on Sep 12, 2010, 01:53 pm
hey did you notice this:

Arduino on Twitter (more)

3 days ago, @andruino it comes wiat an atmega328 Arduino Duemilanove

 ;)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 12, 2010, 02:12 pm
umm, and what does that tell us?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: jcwoltz on Sep 12, 2010, 03:27 pm
Does it come with an atmega128RFA1? Integrated wireless?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: kraig on Sep 12, 2010, 07:22 pm
quantum processing?  :-?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Fletcher_Chr on Sep 13, 2010, 09:54 am
The secret has to lie in the word "cooking"....

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7611/arduinocooking.png

and it even comes with the GCC compiler  ;D

-Fletcher
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: spacebird on Sep 13, 2010, 07:04 pm
The icon means "punto" - point  , so, new Arduino will be, I think:
Arduino Uno punto Cero.   I hope to see a fasters clock and external memory on the board. Cool... ;)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: dnperfors on Sep 13, 2010, 10:07 pm
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I hope to see a fasters clock and external memory on the board. Cool... Wink
With onboard ethernet, soundcard, multiple usb ports, and perhaps even a graphics card?

oh wait ... I already have one, and it is boring to use ::)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Honk on Sep 13, 2010, 11:04 pm
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With onboard ethernet, soundcard, multiple usb ports, and perhaps even a graphics card?

oh wait ... I already have one, and it is boring to use


That's only because it has no wheels or propellers! And is not super simple to entirely reprogram to go get your laundry.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 13, 2010, 11:08 pm
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That's only because it has no wheels or propellers!

Don't forget the flashy LEDs, most are rather lacking in LED flashy  ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cr0sh on Sep 13, 2010, 11:18 pm
I just hope, whatever the new hardware or software does, that they change the icon - that has to be one of the most boring favicons I've seen (heck, my website favicon is more exciting, and I think its pretty bad, too). Hopefully its a placeholder for something better when they release.

Also - why wasn't there ever any 16 bit microcontrollers; "they" completely skipped a generation.  ;D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 13, 2010, 11:22 pm
bleugh.

I agree on the favicon though, at least they gave it a transparent background which is more than a lot of people manage to do.

They might as well make it 32x32 though. 16x16 just means that people with rubbish browsers feel ok about it :D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: UltraMagnus on Sep 14, 2010, 10:23 am
Maybe we are going in the wrong direction and they are going to give us a real challenge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_4004)?

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Also - why wasn't there ever any 16 bit microcontrollers; "they" completely skipped a generation.

PIC24
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: maexono on Sep 15, 2010, 04:41 pm
I don't know, if you recognized it, but the arduino on the photo has 4 screw holes, but the Duemilanove has 3. This hints for new hardware
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 15, 2010, 08:33 pm
nice, more mounting holes  :D

I always thought the 3 was a bit weird...

Unfortunately, the USB and power are in exactly the same place. One of them is not an ethernet socket...  :(

Maybe that's unrelated  ;)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: foxbat on Sep 15, 2010, 10:28 pm
As a foil to those clamouring for ARM levels of performance (buy an ARM ffs!), my hope for a new dev board would be something that took in the highly integrated ATtiny range. An Arduino format board with a pluggable ATtiny stamp module in the center would be great. Buy one Arduino dev board and plug in minimal ATtiny modules as required by your project then deploy the stamp module when you're done.

Just my 2d.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: westfw on Sep 16, 2010, 09:38 am
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why wasn't there ever any 16 bit microcontrollers; "they" completely skipped a generation.

TI's MSP430 is probably one of the few successful truly 16-bit microcontrollers.  There are other attempts: PIC24, Freescale S12 and HC16 series, assorted follow-ons to 8051.  Several others from less hobbyist-known vendors (NEC, Infineon,  Renesas, etc)

I think the fundamental problem is  that the advantages of the larger word sizes tend to have more to do with the ability to address large memory spaces than to do large math.  Most 8bit micros already had 16bit address space(s), so going to a 16bit ALU with 16 bit addresses didn't buy you very much.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: undervand on Sep 16, 2010, 03:08 pm
For those of you that are asking for ARM processors: are you familiar with the Maple from http://www.leaflabs.com?
It is a ARM Cortex M3 based platform that is fully pin and code compatible with Arduino. Its IDE is even almost identical with Arduino.
I apologize if this is old news to you..
- J
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Eight on Sep 16, 2010, 03:16 pm
There's a great thread somewhere on here: someone describing their involvement with the Maple and the seemingly never-ending problems.

I won't be buying one until the new posts in that thread are happy ones. :)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: juliandasilva on Sep 16, 2010, 05:54 pm
We tested it a bit, under Vista, and did not have much problems, but the microcontroller with USB "feels" different from boards with an FTDI chip, because you lost connection for a while when reseting. By other hand, you need two drivers instead of one. But the good thing is that those guys had migrated the Arduino core to the Cortex, and it seems a good work.

Any way, I think the USB drivers/firmware must be improved yet, but it's a good first step. The other ARM boards we saw are more ARM and less Arduino, in our opinion.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: bld on Sep 16, 2010, 06:59 pm
So isn't it a week since they put the "we are cooking something..." up?

Have they written something on what is new, what it is? Anything at all?

Isn't right imo. to post something, then tell nothing about it, and possibility keep buyers from buying anything until the new thing is published...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: mowcius on Sep 16, 2010, 07:07 pm
Indeed it is a week now.

Bit annoying that. I'm not thinking of buying anything new any time soon so I'm fine :D
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 16, 2010, 09:53 pm
well I actually am, and I am holding on to see if I want a new barebones board (mine is getting a little wore out) or if I want whatever this thing is

if its something different than a slight board redesign then I probably will just get the barebones again, but I dont know ...
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: sonicj on Sep 16, 2010, 11:52 pm
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(mine is getting a little wore out)

???
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 17, 2010, 12:00 am
I put machine headers on it, and they SUCK so it takes heavy amounts of force to push wires into them and they are bending

and of course modern device subscribes to the modern notion that pcb pads should only be 3 atoms of copper wide, so you cant unsolder them (I already learned that when I got it, if you look under mine there are 4 wirewrap jumpers on it)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: sonicj on Sep 17, 2010, 12:26 am
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I put machine headers on it, and they SUCK so it takes heavy amounts of force to push wires into them and they are bending

and of course modern device subscribes to the modern notion that pcb pads should only be 3 atoms of copper wide, so you cant unsolder them (I already learned that when I got it, if you look under mine there are 4 wirewrap jumpers on it)

i feel ya. plated through holes can be a real pain to rework!

hmm... i was considering machine headers for a couple of my boards as i thought the standard ones sucked...  :(

well i was going to recommend this board (http://iteadstudio.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=184) as a super bargain alternative to the duemilanove, but it looks like the price has gone up a few bucks.  its still a bargain at $25 imo! clever layout, selectable voltage, shiny solder joints!  its by far my favorite board!
-sj
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 17, 2010, 12:41 am
my experiance with machined headers is

they are either way too tight or way too loose

square pegs do not fit round holes

and they are more expensive than the el cheapo spring loaded ones, and often times more shallow, so when you do get a wire shoved in one you may think "great that bugger is in there" but its in there like 1/8th of an inch and will pop out just as easily  :P

milage may vary, many people like them, after dealing with them at home, and at work its not worth the money to me
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: sonicj on Sep 17, 2010, 02:36 am
my experience with the stackable headers has been hit or miss. mostly miss! i see what you're saying about the machine type plus it would be $$$ to convert everything i own.

i think i might try tining some of the thinner ones to add some bulk to the legs...
-sj
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: poslathian on Sep 19, 2010, 01:11 am
Hmm, how mysterious and exciting, perhaps its an atmega32+usb+lufa...which should have been done a long time ago. Although, the onboard USB is sometimes a pain in the ass. As a developer at LeafLabs I can tell you this problem is a sticky one, that were working hard to make go away.

I suppose we will all find out at Maker Faire this weekend!
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 19, 2010, 02:25 am
um some of us will find out, the rest of us will have to wait some more to see whats up ...

I am not going to act all gruffy expecting "them" to work on my schedule and I do appreciate the heads up, or else I might have been miffed at a new board after purchasing another

but DAMN man lets get on with it  :P

on a side note who do I have to bribe to get the fair to go south of san fran, California? Detroit? NYC? what about Texas and Georgia or Tennesee? there is 2/3rds of a country below their locations! (and yes we do have electricity and roads in Nashville)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: westfw on Sep 19, 2010, 05:50 am
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who do I have to bribe to get the fair to go south of san fran, California? Detroit? NYC? what about Texas


Apparently there were fairs in Austin, TX in 2007 and 2008, but they lost money due to insufficient sponsorship:  http://forums.makezine.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=6049

Probably the weirdo/redneck ratio is too low within the 100mile radius  . :-)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 19, 2010, 07:06 am
ok texas may be a bad example, its quite sparce tween areas, but in Nashville in less than a workdays drive we have

Birmingham
Huntsville
Atlanta
Louisville
Memphis
Evensville

these are not small towns (yea smaller cities but...)

Based out of Atlanta you get much of the same but with NC SC and Flordia in the mix

If were big enough to have national televised events multiple times a year, and Atlanta is big enough for the summer Olympics, surely they can drum up some interest for a hobby fair

I find it interesting I can see Egyptian artifacts in person multiple times in my life without leaving the state, attend the Olympics, and have had attended speeches with George W and ole AL G (and recently stuck in traffic cause of Biden)  , but cant see sparkfuns dumbarse 6 foot nes controllers!

(especially compared to Detroit, my god who wants to go there, its cold dirty and boring)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: sonicj on Sep 19, 2010, 10:33 am
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I find it interesting I can see Egyptian artifacts in person multiple times in my life without leaving the state, attend the Olympics, and have had attended speeches with George W and ole AL G (and recently stuck in traffic cause of Biden)  , but cant see sparkfuns dumbarse 6 foot nes controllers!

lol

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Based out of Atlanta you get much of the same but with NC SC and Flordia in the mix

i would highly consider a road trip to atl for such an occasion!

im craving R Thomas 4:00am penne pasta! mmm...
-sj
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: funlw65 on Sep 21, 2010, 10:37 am
"we are cooking something new for you"
You also cook (fry) us (at small fire)!

Vasi
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: lestofante on Sep 25, 2010, 07:53 pm
they are out!!!!!

http://arduino.cc/blog/2010/09/24/dinner-is-ready/

first :-)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 25, 2010, 08:25 pm
not really there are two topics in bar sport  :P
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: scooterx3 on Sep 25, 2010, 09:42 pm
What's this tinker toolkit thing that they announced?
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: graynomad on Sep 26, 2010, 12:16 am
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What's this tinker toolkit thing that they announced?

I started a thread about this a few days ago,

http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1283739841

it seemed like they had just dissapeared.

They are small IO modules that appear to connect to Arduinos via an as yet undesclosed interface. All sorts seem to be avaliable, switches, displays, touch sensors, etc. I'll see if I can find some details, I have a couple of photos somewhere.

EDIT: Found a link to an article.

http://www.fashioningtech.com/profiles/blogs/tinkerkit-a-physical-computing

Note the date though, maybe not accurate any more.
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: funlw65 on Sep 26, 2010, 09:27 pm
Nice photo on the main page right now!

(http://arduino.cc/img/we_are_working_for_you.jpg)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: cr0sh on Sep 27, 2010, 06:54 am
Well - I have to say that I like the new icon; it would probably look good on the taskbar, as the IDE icon, etc. I was worried it was going to stay that "teal" dot...

;)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Osgeld on Sep 27, 2010, 07:01 am
yea now its a teal dot with a infinity sign in it  ::) (kinda looks like a minimalistic south park type character wearing classes with pink eye)

whatever I am not here to critique a 2 color icon  ;)
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: claydigger on Nov 13, 2010, 12:47 am
If anybody is interested, I have made an svg of the icon:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Arduino_Icon.svg

Digger of Data
Title: Re: New Icon?
Post by: Korman on Nov 13, 2010, 01:52 am
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If anybody is interested, I have made an svg of the icon


Thank you, now I can remove the ugly placeholder I used in my Gnome menu.

Korman