Cheapest source for rubber tracked robot

Hi,
I am building a treaded robot not really heavy duty but will be good enough. I wanted to make it as cheap as possible, I have most of the stuff including motors and batteries, controller.
But the problem is the drive system.
I want to buy use the cheapest ever rubber track source to make my treaded robot. Will cycle tires work? But I want small.
My robot wont exceed 3/4meter length and 3/5 meter bredth.
Please help me complete this project.
I will use arduino to control my motors and software(sensors).
It will be an semi autonomous robot.

I wish to build something like this.

Please help me.

Thanks in advance,
Rahul

searched dx.com?
What country do you live in? Part of the price is the postage costs ...

dx? I am from India.

rahulvyas:
I want to buy use the cheapest ever rubber track source to make my treaded robot. Will cycle tires work? But I want small.

Something like (bicycle tires, likely) that could work, but it would still require a bit of fabrication; for instance, you would need a way to remove the beads and sidewalls of the tire, leaving just a relatively "flat" tread, then you would need some way to either punch holes in the tread (for a direct sprocket drive) or some way to attach cleats on the inner surface of the tread. You would have to space them such that they fit whatever sprockets you are planning to use (or design and fabricate sprockets to fit).

You really don't have many options; there are rubber track manufacturers, but they are generally meant for heavy equipment and even the smallest would be too large for your needs (ie, small ride-on excavators and dozers). Another possibility, but still likely too large, are tracks meant for snowmobiles (also called snow machines).

You may need to go with a completely custom design. On possibility would be to use toothed cog belts flipped "inside-out" (for instance, timing belts that are used on car engines would be a possibility). Driving them could be a chore, though (maybe a toothed "idler" sprocket pulley in-between the idler wheels driving the top-side of the belt?); dirt would also be an issue.

You could always go completely homebrew; plenty of the projects at this site deal with building custom tracks:

http://www.rctankcombat.com/tanks/

...it isn't easy, though, and may not be any cheaper than other methods. Most companies who design such tracked machines, design their belts custom as well, then outsource the manufacturing of them. I don't know if the company you linked the picture from does this, but they might. Then again, maybe there's a custom, small project cogged-drive belt manufacturer out there that does these kinds of things...

Finally - have you thought about forgoing a belt altogether? In many cases, a 6 or 8 (or more) wheeled design can be nearly as effective as a tracked design, and much simpler to design and source parts for...

I tried small bicycle's tires and they were too hard for fitting. Is there anything that can be done?

This thing- http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-custom-and-strong-tank-tracks-for-very/
is good but takes hell lot of time which I can't waste.
The only option remains is using cycle's tire after trimming them. I dont know why they have put simple rubber robot tracks at so high rates of about 1000$ for two :confused:

Have you built a treaded robot before? Maybe I can take it's idea.

cr0sh:
You really don't have many options; there are rubber track manufacturers, but they are generally meant for heavy equipment and even the smallest would be too large for your needs (ie, small ride-on excavators and dozers). Another possibility, but still likely too large, are tracks meant for snowmobiles (also called snow machines).

Also snow blower tracks: http://www.build.com/ariens-72600500-track-drive-assembly/p2058533?source=gba_2058533

haha 599$ is cheap for you? never thought of that.

rahulvyas:
haha 599$ is cheap for you? never thought of that.

Personally, I think it is rather expensive, but it is an interesting option. Another option is to look into track manufacturers for "power wheelbarrows" and such (some of them use tracks) - but I doubt you're going to find that any cheaper...

Unless you really need tracks, easier and more practical would be a four wheel skid stear bot like below. A google search will produce various ways to make your own tracks.

http://www.lynxmotion.com/c-30-a4wd1-rovers.aspx

http://www.lynxmotion.com/c-94-tracks.aspx
http://home.btconnect.com/british_tanker/hetzer-tracks.htm

http://woodgears.ca/tracked_vehicle/index.html

rahulvyas:
haha 599$ is cheap for you? never thought of that.

Compared to the ~$7000 robot in the picture you linked I'd say it was cheap :wink: but now that you have an idea of how expensive even the smallest track/wheel systems cost you might look a bit harder at making your own.

I am looking at building something similar. Here is what I have found on tracks (note I have not filtered this on cost).

http://www.mcmaster.com/#timing-belts/=klc1d2 for timing belts
McMaster-Carr for conveyor belts

I found another provider of conveyor belts of the right size for what you are after but can't lay my hands on the URL at this time

The Chinese produce a number of specialist tracks

You might be lucky and find an old track snowblower on ebay

Tell me how you get on

Cheers
Bruce

Superdroid has some neat rubber tracks that they sell by feet. Check them out as well.