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ThreeDogs


21.02.2017

Hello,

I would linke to suggest having automatic updates on the Arduino IDE SW.

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Delta_G

I would not like that. Quite often the new update makes changes that break my code. So I often stay a few releases behind. I want to know the bugs are worked out before I use it. I don't want to be the frustrated one finding them. I'd rather decide for myself when to update my IDE.
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ThreeDogs

Personally I do not like working with old IDE's - I think this brings problem later.

BUT usually there is the possibility to

1) Ignore all Updates 2) Ask is update should be implemented and lastly 3) Auto-Update without asking.

That covers all possibilities.

Delta_G

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Feb 21, 2017, 04:42 pm Last Edit: Feb 21, 2017, 04:43 pm by Delta_G
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Personally I do not like working with old IDE's - I think this brings problem later.
"I think" is weasel words. Can you specify what troubles it has caused or you anticipate it causing?  Especially with Arduino it's the new updates that are unstable. Best practice for me at least is to wait until a version seems good and stable and has some functionality that I need, then upgrade to that and not the newest.

You'll hear that mantra repeated all over the forum. Beware the latest version.
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ThreeDogs

There is something in that....but I use a Python IDE and C++ IDE's   that gets updated and ,yes, there were issues but not of importance. You still have to the power to decide whether you want the update or not so no problem there. That choice is important.

Delta_G

You already have that choice though. It pops up and asks if you want to upgrade if it finds that you're not on the most up to date version.
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ThreeDogs

Not on my Win 10 system. I need to click on Arduino.cc and see if there are any updates.

That is exactly what I was missing.


Delta_G

Oh. Well that problem must have something to do with your setup. I get that pop up every time I open Arduino. It says a new version is available and asks if I want to go to Arduino.cc to download it.
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pert

I think the updatable IDE notifications is a useful feature. You can turn it off in preferences but that also turns off updatable library and boards notifications. That feature was broken for any IDE version higher than 1.6.0 until the last week when they finally updated https://www.arduino.cc/latest.txt to 10801. Every release does fix some bugs and add some useful features. For example, 1.8.2 will fix the long standing issue with Windows XP. They also tend to introduce some new bugs. I prefer to always use the hourly build so I can beta test and try to catch those bugs before they get released but that's not advisable for everyone. I think it would make sense for the Arduino developers to wait a few days after a release before enabling the updatable notifications and if any serious issues are exposed during that time then don't do notifications for that release. This will also reduce the chance of the download server being swamped by every user trying to update right after the release.

ThreeDogs

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Feb 22, 2017, 10:06 am Last Edit: Feb 22, 2017, 10:12 am by ThreeDogs
Oh. Well that problem must have something to do with your setup. I get that pop up every time I open Arduino. It says a new version is available and asks if I want to go to Arduino.cc to download it.
@DELTA_G  Thank for the input. I have downloaded the latest Version and will see if I get those notifications.

@pert Thank you for that information, it's dood to know that.

Best regards to you all from a very windy, wet and a bit too warm for this time of year Germany

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