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Title: Arduino programming kit
Post by: laurentjeuxlille on Dec 28, 2012, 09:07 am
Hi all,

i would like to make a stand alone Arduino, and à guess what i should buy.

Found this : http://fr.hobbytronics.co.uk/arduino-atmega328-hardcore

and i think i should buy this also to avoir voltage trouble : http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/ftdi-basic

Do i need somethig else ?
Title: Re: Arduino programming kit
Post by: strykeroz on Dec 28, 2012, 09:51 am
Hi

That pretty much gets you there.  Depending on how permanent you're intending this to be, you'll also want some kind of connection for the power input, whether that be a 2.1mm socket for a wall wart, or something to wire your battery to.

You'll also need a row of 5 male headers and a 1uF ceramic capacitor so you can wire in your connection for programming it via the FTDI breakout.
(check Nick Gammon's explanation (http://www.gammon.com.au/forum/?id=11637), about half way down that page for how that's wired.

Cheers ! Geoff
Title: Re: Arduino programming kit
Post by: fungus on Dec 28, 2012, 09:52 am

Hi all,

i would like to make a stand alone Arduino, and à guess what i should buy.

Found this : http://fr.hobbytronics.co.uk/arduino-atmega328-hardcore


You only really need the atmega328 chip, but that will do.


and i think i should buy this also to avoir voltage trouble : http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/ftdi-basic


FTDI programming is very limited. You'd be far better off with one of these: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=arduino+isp+programmer

Title: Re: Arduino programming kit
Post by: laurentjeuxlille on Dec 28, 2012, 12:18 pm


Hi all,

i would like to make a stand alone Arduino, and à guess what i should buy.

Found this : http://fr.hobbytronics.co.uk/arduino-atmega328-hardcore


You only really need the atmega328 chip, but that will do.


and i think i should buy this also to avoir voltage trouble : http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/ftdi-basic


FTDI programming is very limited. You'd be far better off with one of these: http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=arduino+isp+programmer




What do you mean by fdti programming is very limited ?

The link product you show me is for bootloader, and i think i will take already bootloaded atmega.
Title: Re: Arduino programming kit
Post by: fungus on Dec 28, 2012, 12:47 pm

What do you mean by fdti programming is very limited ?


Exactly that. The only thing you can do with it is upload a program to a chip which has a bootloader.


The link product you show me is for bootloader, and i think i will take already bootloaded atmega.


Not just for bootloaders, it works with the Arduino IDE for uploading programs to bare chips. You just choose a programmer instead of a COM port.

Plus...

Title: Re: Arduino programming kit
Post by: laurentjeuxlille on Dec 28, 2012, 01:45 pm


What do you mean by fdti programming is very limited ?


Exactly that. The only thing you can do with it is upload a program to a chip which has a bootloader.


The link product you show me is for bootloader, and i think i will take already bootloaded atmega.


Not just for bootloaders, it works with the Arduino IDE for uploading programs to bare chips. You just choose a programmer instead of a COM port.

Plus...

  • You don't need bootloaders any more (the Mega328 chips will cost you less!)

  • You can work with other chips (eg. ATtiny84, ATtiny85). Once you get into using bare chips you'll eventually want to do this (smaller, less legs, less soldering).

  • You can set fuse bits on the chips (eg. so you don't need external crystal to make them work)

  • ...and a lot of other things, too





Sounds great... think i will go for it !
Thx
Title: Re: Arduino programming kit
Post by: laurentjeuxlille on Dec 28, 2012, 02:08 pm
One last question : do i need 10x6 or 10x10 pin cable ?
Title: Re: Arduino programming kit
Post by: fungus on Dec 28, 2012, 03:36 pm

One last question : do i need 10x6 or 10x10 pin cable ?


6 pin for Arduino work...