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Title: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Jun 07, 2017, 12:05 pm
Hello Everyone,

My name is Babasile Daniel. I am the initiator of the GreenLab Microfactory, the first FabLab in Nigeria. The reason for posting this thread is to inform you all of the innovative project we embarked on. The project is called 'One Student One Arduino' project.

The aim of the project is to provide a personal Arduino starter kit to 100 young Nigerian students, with the sole purpose of spurring grassroots innovations in the country.

We have launched a fundraising campaign on: https://www.gofundme.com/one-student-one-arduino-project

Kindly support this innovative project by donating any amount of money, or by donating Arduino starter kit(s), as well as by sharing the information on your social media.

Thank you for your support

Babadile Daniel
www.greenlab-microfactory.org
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: CrossRoads on Jun 07, 2017, 06:24 pm
User name of " 'shill' out" would lend credence to that.

"www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shill
The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services ..."

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill
A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization."

"whatis.techtarget.com › Topics › Consumer Tech › Internet acronyms and lingo
An Internet shill is someone who promotes something or someone online for pay without divulging that they are associated with the entity they shill for. A shill ..."

I am tempted to ban for spammimg.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Robin2 on Jun 07, 2017, 06:45 pm
I am tempted to ban for spammimg.
Perhaps delete all but the first line of the Original Post (i.e. to remove the links) and lock the Thread - which gives the OP a chance to complain if he is legit.

...R
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: GoForSmoke on Jun 15, 2017, 09:32 pm
Legal charity collectors in the US can keep as much as 95% of what they collect tax free while giving 5% to the ones the money is supposed to be collected for. The only bigger scam I can think of is religion.

Maybe the Nigerian Prince who wants me to make it easy to get into my bank account to deposit a few million can use the OP's bank account instead.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Jul 20, 2017, 10:50 am
smells like a scam...

~Travis
Hello Travis,

Thank you for your message and for the vote of confidence. FYI this is not a scam, learn to give people a benefit of a doubt. Not everyone is about that life of taking what does not belong to them. if you need more information just ask.

Thank you
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Jul 20, 2017, 10:56 am
User name of " 'shill' out" would lend credence to that.

"www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shill
The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services ..."

"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill
A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with the person or organization."

"whatis.techtarget.com › Topics › Consumer Tech › Internet acronyms and lingo
An Internet shill is someone who promotes something or someone online for pay without divulging that they are associated with the entity they shill for. A shill ..."

I am tempted to ban for spammimg.
Hello Crossroads,

How on earth does a username prove the credibility of a person. I don't know whether you can see my real name on the profile. Please let's learn to give people a benefit of a doubt. My email address is babasile.daniel@greenlab-microfactory, if you have any question with regards to my person please contact me.

Thank you.

Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Jul 20, 2017, 11:09 am
Legal charity collectors in the US can keep as much as 95% of what they collect tax free while giving 5% to the ones the money is supposed to be collected for. The only bigger scam I can think of is religion.

Maybe the Nigerian Prince who wants me to make it easy to get into my bank account to deposit a few million can use the OP's bank account instead.
Hello GoForSmoke,

With all due respect, your post is really disgraceful and shameful. Why on earth don't you just ask for clarification before making such claims. Why bring my country (Nigeria) into this conversation. Where is the collaborative spirit, where is the Do-it-together spirit?

All the same thanks so much for the message.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Robin2 on Jul 20, 2017, 11:35 am
@shillout, you may indeed be legitimate but it has taken over a month for you to respond to the other comments and while you have complained about them you have not offered any evidence to offset our doubts. You must be aware that the internet is awash (or used to be) with scams originating from Nigeria.

My doubts remain.

...R
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: GoForSmoke on Jul 20, 2017, 12:02 pm
With the name Shillout I get to have my doubts about money collected for charity by people I don't know ANYWHERE.

I give to people I know who need help, wish I had more but I retain the right to remain skeptical in the face of flimsy claims.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Jul 20, 2017, 03:28 pm
@shillout, you may indeed be legitimate but it has taken over a month for you to respond to the other comments and while you have complained about them you have not offered any evidence to offset our doubts. You must be aware that the internet is awash (or used to be) with scams originating from Nigeria.

My doubts remain.

...R
Dear Robin,

Thank you very much for your message. I as a person know the battle I am fighting as a Nigerian and all the stigmas attached to the supposed Nigerian scam. This is one of the reasons why I embarked on the project to create something for the younger Nigerian generations.

My delayed response was due to the complexities of my PhD project.

I really appreciate your message though.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Jul 20, 2017, 03:34 pm
With the name Shillout I get to have my doubts about money collected for charity by people I don't know ANYWHERE.

I give to people I know who need help, wish I had more but I retain the right to remain skeptical in the face of flimsy claims.
Dear GoForSmoke,

You are most definitely right and well justified to act based on your intuition. All the same thank you for your comments.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Robin2 on Jul 20, 2017, 06:04 pm
I really appreciate your message though.
But not enough to provide any evidence in support of your bona fides ?

...R
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Jul 21, 2017, 10:35 am
But not enough to provide any evidence in support of your bona fides ?

...R
How else could I authenticate or legitimize myself or the project? Kindly enlighten me. My web address is www.greenlab-microfactory.org, and we are registered on the global FabLab network. If you search the keyword 'One Student One Arduino' on the web you should find more information to approve or disapprove the project.

Enjoy your day.

Thanks
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Qdeathstar on Jul 22, 2017, 02:07 pm
take a picture of yourself dancing in the wild with nothing but an arduino micro covering your nether regions... then, i shall believe you.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Robin2 on Jul 22, 2017, 02:09 pm
take a picture of yourself dancing in the wild with nothing but an arduino micro covering your nether regions... then, i shall believe you.
In the event that the OP is genuine that is not a nice suggestion.

And it would prove nothing.

...R
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: CrossRoads on Jul 22, 2017, 03:55 pm
Well, after a lengthy delay, I was able to look at the gofundme website (which was blocked for access for me by my work network), which looks legit, and where shillout has raised funds so far.

shillout, I do wish you the best in your campaign.

550 € of 8 000 € goal
(https://d2g8igdw686xgo.cloudfront.net/20920600_1496581632.4677.jpg)

Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: MAS3 on Jul 22, 2017, 04:42 pm
Well, more doubts rise.

If you are in Nigeria, then why do you use a German mobile phone as contact number, and why is your site registered by German 1&1 ?

Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Qdeathstar on Jul 22, 2017, 05:16 pm
It would prove he was committed, legally or otherwise.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: ardly on Jul 24, 2017, 04:37 pm
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If you are in Nigeria, then why do you use a German mobile phone as contact number, and why is your site registered by German 1&1 ?
The website does not hide the German connection it gives a contact address in Hamburg. Babasile Daniel Oladele-Emmanuel can be found in Linkedin. Looking at the website and the photos and reports it contains it seems clear to me this is a genuine fundraising attempt by a real person who has been working in Nigeria teaching a range of people, mainly children, about new technology. It looks like they had a good time working with a 3D printer and building a solar panel from scratch.

http://www.greenlab-microfactory.org/events-and-publications/ (http://www.greenlab-microfactory.org/events-and-publications/)

The huge number of scams that originate from Nigeria obviously don't help their cause.
Now I am starting to get pestered by relatives of Colonel Gaddafi in Lybia wanting me to help move their money about.

This reminds me that I am owed a cool beer under an Acacia tree, for help I once gave over the Internet, should I ever visit Nairobi in Kenya.


 
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: larryd on Jul 25, 2017, 02:02 am
Fool you once shame on you, fool you twice you are a fool.


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Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Qdeathstar on Jul 25, 2017, 03:43 am
So, now that it's legit whose opening their wallet?
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: larryd on Jul 25, 2017, 03:54 am
So, now that it's legit whose opening their wallet?
I believe the spammers from Nigeria have donated.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: ardly on Jul 26, 2017, 11:53 am
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So, now that it's legit whose opening their wallet?
That was a conversation killer.

It is a pity that they they cannot at least get help on the forum but they seem to have a poor internet service and an "epileptic power supply" !

Is it treason in this forum to say that they might be better to use Raspberry Pis rather than Arduinos?
How do you write the plural of a Pi, Raspberry Pis just does not seem right?  :)

They only seem to have a couple of PCs so how are they going to program 100 Arduinos?
With Pi they could use any PCs they have to run the Raspberries headless. They also might stand a better chance of getting old keyboards, mice and monitors than getting their hands on working PCs.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: MAS3 on Jul 26, 2017, 01:24 pm
The threshold with a Pi is much higher than that of an Arduino.
100 Arduinos doesn't mean they all have to be programmed at the same time.
A school with 1000 students doesn't mean those 1000 students will always be in the same classroom.

Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Robin2 on Jul 26, 2017, 01:56 pm
What about this ...

The official Arduino team checks out this project to see if it is kosher.

If it is the Arduino folks set up a system where we can contribute money to a fund to pay for the Arduinos.

When the Arduino folks have enough money they can send the Arduino Unos to the project.

This won't cost the Arduino folks anything except some of their time - and maybe they would be kind enough to make the Unos available at cost price.

If they do set up a fund like that I would be prepared to contribute the price of one Uno - as long as I can pay with Paypal to an Arduino account. I am not prepared to pay anything directly to the charity.


...R
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: ardly on Jul 26, 2017, 02:09 pm
What about this ...

The official Arduino team checks out this project to see if it is kosher.

If it is the Arduino folks set up a system where we can contribute money to a fund to pay for the Arduinos.

When the Arduino folks have enough money they can send the Arduino Unos to the project.

This won't cost the Arduino folks anything except some of their time - and maybe they would be kind enough to make the Unos available at cost price.

If they do set up a fund like that I would be prepared to contribute the price of one Uno - as long as I can pay with Paypal to an Arduino account. I am not prepared to pay anything directly to the charity.


...R
If you can get the Arduino people to do that I would chip in a Uno as well - that would be 2% of their target already. Is there any official connection between this site and Arduino?
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Robin2 on Jul 26, 2017, 02:37 pm
Is there any official connection between this site and Arduino?
The Arduino folks pay for it and maintain it. But they hardly every read it.

...R
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: ardly on Jul 28, 2017, 11:13 am
The threshold with a Pi is much higher than that of an Arduino.
100 Arduinos doesn't mean they all have to be programmed at the same time.
A school with 1000 students doesn't mean those 1000 students will always be in the same classroom.


I thought there would be more of a debate about PI v Arduino for this application.

If you only have a couple of PCs surely you only need 10 Arduinos plus 100 breadboards?
The lack of an OS on the Arduino makes it very easy to program, but learning to program hardware is still jumping in at the deep end. With Pi there are more tools to teach programming such as Scratch and Turtley for teaching Python, plus they can dig deeper if they want to.

If they had plenty of PCs to program the Arduinos I could be pursuaded. With access to the Arduinos restricted by a lack of PCs I think more kids would get a better experience if they went the Pi route.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: Qdeathstar on Jul 28, 2017, 01:52 pm
You still have to have a computer to program the pi...
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: ardly on Jul 28, 2017, 03:46 pm
You still have to have a computer to program the pi...
No. You can get the Pi with NOOBs on the SD card so plug in the Pi and it boots to the Raspbian (Debian Linux) operating system. What you do need is a keyboard, mouse and monitor but those might be easier to come by than working computers. If you do have PC you can also run the Pi "headless" from it.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Aug 15, 2017, 02:51 pm
@Robin2 @Travis_Farmer @CrossRoads @ardly, and everybody that commented, I would like to say a very big thank you for your understanding and comments. About my German number, I am a PhD candidate in Germany. Hence the reason for the German number and also for the website.

I also want you to know that, despite the fact that I am a Nigerian I also receive those spam emails. The goal here is to disregard all the negative experiences and provide an positive/good opportunity for the younger ones.

Thank you all.
Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: larryd on Aug 15, 2017, 06:26 pm
Looking at your post count tells it all.

Zero effort on your part to give back to the community says everything.

Your user name also says a lot.  shillout  >>>>-----> shell out.



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Title: Re: 'One Student One Arduino' Project
Post by: shillout on Sep 27, 2017, 01:38 pm
Looking at your post count tells it all.

Zero effort on your part to give back to the community says everything.

Your user name also says a lot.  shillout  >>>>-----> shell out.



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Dear Larryd,

You are most definitely right about my contribution to the Arduino community. I could do better by contributing often. I would like to blame it on my schedule, and I promise to work on that.

However, there are more diplomatic ways to pass a message across. Your last statement shouldn't have been included in the message.

All the same thank you for your response.