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Title: $10 Arduino
Post by: dragon2777 on Jul 23, 2010, 08:33 am
so i was at The Next Hope Conference last weekend and picked up a $10 Arduino from The Makerspace and it is pretty cool. They call it the Picodiuno Fits in the breadboard and all that good junk. I had emailed them because I had a problem and they got back to me right away. I just felt that I had to say something about it. You can order them online at http://www.themakerspace.com It needs and FTDI cable or breakout they seem to be out of them at the moment but was told in the email that they will be back in stock next week
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Funky Diver on Jul 23, 2010, 11:10 am
Now that is a neat bit of kit... *site bookmarked*  Thanks for that one!
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: ITead on Jul 23, 2010, 12:19 pm
It more like a arduino : http://metalab.at/wiki/Metaboard

Guess its price (http://iteadstudio.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=122)...$10
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Funky Diver on Jul 23, 2010, 09:08 pm
Hmm... I'm personally liking the smaller version for what I have in mind.  It's more... disposable and discreet rather than a lumping big board with connectors that aren't required.
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: donkahones on Jul 23, 2010, 09:13 pm
hackduino is only $8.
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: dragon2777 on Jul 23, 2010, 10:48 pm
well the hackduino is $8 but you need to have or get all the parts and if you have to get some then you may have to pay shipping and the Picoduino is smaller fits in tight places better and its an already created board
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Ro-Bot-X on Jul 25, 2010, 04:03 am
I think Ardweeny (http://www.solarbotics.com/products/kardw/) is smaller!
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Tchnclfl on Jul 25, 2010, 05:26 am
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I think Ardweeny is smaller!


And so much space is wasted on through-hold components!  Shrink those down to SMD and you could fit a few more debug LEDs, etc.

I do see why though, as it's meant to be built by entry-level hobbyists..I sure as hell can't solder small surface mount components!
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: cr0sh on Jul 25, 2010, 05:32 am
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I think Ardweeny is smaller!


I think this is smaller, but its not something you can buy (this link was posted in another thread):

http://www.geocities.jp/arduino_diecimila/obaka/project-2/index_en.html

:)

[edit]I must note that the above isn't strictly an "Arduino" - it uses an ATMega88 @ 8Mhz, leaving out the crystal/resonator, etc...[/edit]
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Tchnclfl on Jul 25, 2010, 05:34 am
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I think this is smaller, but its not something you can buy


Ah, another one of my favorites :).  If I wasn't too scared of damaging the chip, I'd try that out.  As it is, I put EVERYTHING in DIP sockets just in case I ever want to re-purpose it (yes, even $0.10 555 timers :P).
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: cr0sh on Jul 25, 2010, 05:41 am
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If I wasn't too scared of damaging the chip, I'd try that out.


Yeah - I think that kind of stuff borders on "art", as I've stated before; its akin to other Japanese art forms like origami or bonsai. Maybe when I get my shop fully in order I might try it myself.

Where it would be interesting to apply, though, would be into "advanced" forms of BEAM robotics...

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As it is, I put EVERYTHING in DIP sockets just in case I ever want to re-purpose it (yes, even $0.10 555 timers).


Just the other day as I was organizing my IC parts, I had a few 555s (along with LM386s and other such 8-pin parts), and I was thinking "does anybody still use these"; its nice to see people still do!

I have so many old parts (lots of 74xx TTL stuff - most of it LS) that I wonder if I should keep or not; I figure I have to keep it, especially if I ever start to muck around with my Altair...might need 'em as spare parts...

:)
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Tchnclfl on Jul 25, 2010, 06:43 am
Oh sure, simple circuits like 555 can be very useful when you don't want to overkill with an ATmega!

I mean, why bother doing something with an expensive part when you could do it with a cheap one? ;).  It's often easier with cheaper parts too (especially if they're designed for it).
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Pauly on Jul 25, 2010, 02:00 pm
This looks nice and small.  
Does anyone know if it comes with the bootloader installed?
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Tchnclfl on Jul 25, 2010, 04:11 pm
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completely compatible with all Arduino code and products.


Sounds like it to me.  I would be very surprised if it didn't.
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: dragon2777 on Jul 26, 2010, 12:35 am
it does come with the bootloader installed

the problem that I have with the ardweeny and solorbotics in general is that there is a $10 or something charge for orders under $35 i almost bought the ardweeny but that left a bad taste in my mouth
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: cr0sh on Jul 26, 2010, 08:01 am
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the problem that I have with the ardweeny and solorbotics in general is that there is a $10 or something charge for orders under $35 i almost bought the ardweeny but that left a bad taste in my mouth


Was this recently? Because at their "shipping conditions" page:

http://www.solarbotics.com/info/shipping-options/#freeShippingConditions

They state that there is a handling fee of $5.00 for orders under $30.00; I don't consider that terrible - more of an "incentive" to purchase at least $30.00. I can see it from a business point of view; with the margins on products sold being only so big, you can easily start losing money on overhead. They've run their numbers, and so in order to keep their prices lower (than competition presumably), they have to charge a handling fee on small orders to cover what would be made up "on the margin" in a larger order. They can either do that, reduce overhead (aka, fire employees), or raise prices across their product line.

I hope that made sense...

;D
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: dragon2777 on Jul 26, 2010, 10:13 am
i understand that but after the $5 and shipping one of them was going to be just over $20 and that wasnt worth it in my eyes
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Funky Diver on Jul 26, 2010, 12:27 pm
Just to chip in... Jason from The Makerspace has confirmed that he will ship international, just not via the googleshop on the site.

For shipping quotes, just hit the contact button with your details and destination country and he'll sort it out for you... and very quickly too!!

Shipping to the UK works out at $13.45, which I think is VERY reasonable.  Some US companies really take the rip shipping overseas.  I once had a quote of $73 for three ft of macroline, which is a) not heavy b) not bulky and C) would fit into an envelope (a little one at that!!)
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Bokononestly on Aug 01, 2010, 05:32 am
How would you breadboard the picoduino? Put jumper wires through the holes? I can't decide which one I think is better: the picoduino or the ardweeny.

If you used those in projects, would you also need to buy/make a voltage regulator?
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: billhowl on Aug 02, 2010, 06:19 am
picoduino
(http://themakerspace.com/testsite/images/pico.jpg)
http://bytebucket.org/ricklon/arduino-wine-in-box-bot/wiki/Home
(http://bitbucket.org/ricklon/arduino-wine-in-box-bot/raw/069cf0238851/fritzing/FritzingSmallControls.png)
ardweeny
(http://www.solarbotics.com/assets/images/kardw/ardw-img_0351_ps.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_qUNR3BskM8U/S7a-Yq3D6YI/AAAAAAAAANE/0U5lH44hGM0/s1600/Ardweeny9.jpg)

Yes, You need to buy/make a voltage regulator like this the breadboard voltage regulator as there is no voltage regulator on board.



smallest arduino board
http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1239733868/all
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: dragon2777 on Aug 02, 2010, 02:58 pm
you put pin headers in it to breadboard it and it pops right into the breadboard. you would then just use wires to go from the pin to somewhere else i.e. a sensor.

also you do not need a voltage regulator if you just use 5v from the FTDI cable or 5v from another source. Also check out the shield adapter on the site it lets you use any normal Arduino shield with that form factor something that no one else has for the alternate form factors and it has a voltage regulator and other power options on the board as well
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: ricklon on Aug 03, 2010, 06:19 pm
Not the best picture, but there is an Adafruit adjustable power supply at the end of the breadboard. Other option is to use the breakout shield.

(http:// http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4065/4661279714_c8638a162c_b_d.jpg)
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: dragon2777 on Aug 03, 2010, 06:21 pm
and again you could just use the 5v from the FTDI cable as well
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Funky Diver on Aug 04, 2010, 01:29 am
Received my Picoduino kits today... faster shipping than some UK based companies selling their wares via ebay.

Now how do I phrase their feedback... ?

Picoduinoe, you get what it says you get, and fabulous in terms of shipping!!  Just gotta find the time to solder them together (which shouldn't be too difficult as I'll be having 3 weeks paternity VERY soon!)
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: patgadget on Aug 04, 2010, 03:10 am
Anyone heard of the RBBB from Modern Device?
Another small package.
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: pocketscience on Aug 04, 2010, 05:55 am
Yeah, looked at that one the other week. Pretty cute:

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9582/products/RBBB_Assembled_1_grande.jpg)
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: pocketscience on Aug 31, 2010, 10:42 am
I actually ended up going with the Picoduino from Jason. He happily shipped to my hotel in CA so that was awesome. Have to say the Pico is pretty damn nice, and Jason's support was fabulous. So much so that I've ordered a few more and will pick them up in CA next week. Yay!

Also picked up a DroneCell from him (after some interesting chats with Eric (the designer)). Haven't figured out what to do with it yet, but it's uber-neat! :-)


Cheers,
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Caliber Mengsk on Sep 01, 2010, 12:05 am
I just bought my picoduino's (two of them) to do a trial run of a lighting kit for hobby items. (for models like cars, star ships, cities, etc.)

I haven't gotten mine yet though. (bought Thursday night and is now Tuesday afternoon. I expect to get it tomorrow though.)

What's cool is that I contacted them about the batteries they mentioned in the description of the picoduino, and they said it will be there soon as they are in talks with a company about making them. They also said that it will probably sell for around $10 and be rechargeable, which it can also be used on any arduino I would guess.

Pretty spiffy website so far, just need to get a few more products. Register before buying from them though. I didn't and it didn't show my purchase on their website, even though I registered from the redirect page. No big deal really as google checkout still completed and I confirmed that they got my order (via contact on their site).

I'm rambling again. Anyway, hope to get my stuff for it tomorrow.
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Brad Burleson on Sep 01, 2010, 08:49 am
My favorite clone is the dorkboard - http://www.wulfden.org/TheShoppe/freeduino/dorkboard.shtml

Cheap and small.

Brad.
Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Sanndroalex on Sep 05, 2010, 09:03 pm
This is an arduino that was developed on one side and is free.

http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1282527716


Title: Re: $10 Arduino
Post by: Sanndroalex on Sep 05, 2010, 10:51 pm
i'm sorry, this's the link:

http://www.arduino.cc/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1282527716

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4115/4916106693_a0a64f6a14.jpg)