12$ mini toaster oven from family dollar (FTW!)  ;D

well not an active one but maybe an idea

last year a guy on instructables started one pcbpolice.com, anyway it never really took of then it got eaten up by bots, and he gave up

I had not been there for a year, but someone else took it over and has it running clean, still no activity since october of 2009

so there is a forum setup for general electronics yap that is not being used that could be a decent place to seed a community  ;D

just for giggles you can write asm in the arduino IDE with the appropriate tags

I am not really sure when spastic became generally OK, as a kid it was used in a negative meaning to those with muscle control problems, which unless you were a crackhead or something was usually not under your control and really should not be made fun of

lol

personally let them deal with it, if they are actively defending their trademark then it should be no problem, if not then whats the problem

woot

yea really, and whats in that list of fun along with every nerd banging their servers all at once again?

Thats right! testing their new servers... so yea have fun in DOS hell trying to snag a coupon that will only be available for less than 2 hours

besides I save way more than that over a year by not buying from them at all  

moderndevice

ebay

it was only pre-heating so no thermite turkey for me

Heh the magnesium oxide inside my oven's heating element caught fire and was glowing super white hot tossing sparks ...

the fire department just left...

now I get to go to the in laws in about an hour

 

but its not, its a standard uno board in a new package

Id like to see any of you repackage a xbox360 by just sticking it in a new box and never mention microsoft

its shit, it voids the entire concept of trademarking it, making sure the consumer knows its getting a fair deal

so which is it? is arduino.cc ripping off sparkfun or vice versa? cause I cant tell

the trademark owner is not enforcing their trademark, and I am confused like any other stupid noob, which is real? the arduino.cc (whats that? sparkfun tells me they made it and go to their website???)

surely for gods sake if our users are to fkin stupid to handle things like line numbers and font sizes in the IDE as argued in the uno thread they surely can not determine the origin of the original product, is it some half falling apart website with a forum or a "major vendor" of electronics hobby gear with a similar forum

if its licensed it does not need to be COPY RIGHT BY SPARKFUN and SHOW a license mark on the front of the product (eg Nintendo)

till then hell anything goes, as far as I am concerned I am going to market some arduino brand ball scratchers and watch them stop me, they are not defending their name, which is required!

this is not a new frontier people, you either make a stupid gold star saying officially licensed product or you shut it down, end of story

if you do neither you forfeit and have no right to whine when someone uses "your" name

I dont see what it matters while the SF still exist's ( I mean focks sake it says sparkfun electronics arduino main board designed to help you on the front and copyrights it sparkfun on the back!)

this isnt a I hate SF rant, though I do ... its they are selling a arduino uno void of its original packaging with sparkfun electronics slathered all over it and even show the help and reference page on the back as a SF website, no mention of arduino the team site or community what so ever

its either all or nothing here, you either defend your precious trademark or dont, its not a wishy washy "but we like them so its ok", or its ebay / community member providing cores, and how dare they use a surname to represent something compatible with our product

they either are defending it or not, period

I give it a little bit longer before I start hollering to the proper people, as they are NOT actively protecting their trade mark (which is about the only thing they have since every other aspect of the project is based on some one else's open source design, from wiring to processing)

honestly the cat is out of the bag the arduino team could disappear tomorrow and it would make little difference once the dust settles and someone becomes the next definer, or heck if it never advanced again there would still be millions of users for at least a decade

eh it was removed anyway, but the clearly marked sparkfun brand uno still lives on ...

http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10175

made for you by sparkfun electronics

!@#*!

I just came from radio shack, grabbed my 4 items and left, did not even look around, which is unusual for me

bugger, its a 45 min drive to the nearest one so I wont be back before they sell out