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1171  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Bar Sport / Re: congratulations italy!!! on: July 10, 2006, 08:12:45 am
1172  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Uno Punto Zero / Re: Lost opportunity on: November 01, 2010, 06:39:24 am
udo, thanks for your comments.
I have a couple of points to make:

Obviously the Arduino team does not intend to fix this at any time in the near future. This is something I definitely do not like.
where did you read this?  We definitely want to fix it at some point but the current layout works for a lot of people and there are other issues we want to take care of.

Some decision in the arduino project are take without following "standard engineering practice" for example I always found the double row of pins to be very very ugly and it confuses beginners.

The same goes for the atmega8u2 in our mind that is a replacement of the FTDI chip that can do  more and it's more open source. two very important goals for us. Connecting the other pins to some pads or connector would have made the board incredibly more complex while we worked hard to gain more "empty space" on it.

Again this to make the board less intimidating.

Current "professional" development systems for microcontrollers have gazillions of pins, connectors, switches, ports, buttons, LEDs and more just because they might be useful one day. this logic works well in the engineering world but in a world of people who see their first microcontroller of their life "less is more" works well.

There is now a chance to rething the standard arduino layout.
Manufacturers make less and less DIP processors available and even when they have them in their catalogue the delivey times are very very long. on the other hand some very exciting parts are available only in 3.3v (or less)

I think if we ever produce a 3.3v Arduino board we would have to change the layout so that people understand that things are different and the current shields (wired for 5v) can't be fitted.

it's a longer discussion but there is an opportunity for innovation there, always keeping things very simple


1173  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Uno Punto Zero / Re: It is brilliant - lock it down. on: March 01, 2010, 02:03:04 am

As usual you're absolutely spot on and we share the same view.
1.0 is about consolidation and making sure documentation/examples/api match and stop shifting too much so that people can teach/write books/etc without having to constantly follow the API around.

this opens the door to a more "experimental branch" where we can play more without the fear of confusing a beginner.

Thanks smiley for the kind words here and on Avr-chat where the hate for arduino is so intense it's ridiculous smiley

To the rest of the people I can only say this : analogWrite stays... move on to something else smiley

1174  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Uno Punto Zero / Re: After 1.0 on: February 19, 2010, 05:22:27 am
I'm pretty sure it will always be "1.0 beta" smiley

1175  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Uno Punto Zero / Re: Product, not platform? on: February 19, 2010, 05:19:29 am
From my point of view 1.0 means stabilisation.

i.e. we try to figure out how to remove all the major issue in the current version of Arduino and stabilise the API.

It allows us to have a stable API, a stable documentation and a predictable user experience on the IDE.

This is great news if you're trying to teach a class or write a book etc etc

After this is done we can resume making all the changes and being even more daring in the features we add because there is a stable version that work for most of the people and a more "cutting edge" version with more experimental/advanced API.

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