I finally got the example web client and pachube streams working.
I had to poke around around for a couple of weeks to find someone that had come across the problem before. I was pretty sure that I had something not all together right.  I finally found a post (unfortunately I can't give proper props because I can't find it now) that indicated that I should add gateway and subnet to the  Ethernet.begin(mac, ip, gateway, subnet);
I added this to both sketches and they now work great.
Who updates the 'official' documenation and may consider updating the documentation?
This may have saved me a week.

It's all working fine now.