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1  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 30, 2008, 10:16:01 pm
NO WAY  :smiley

I was able to upload the blink sketch to the lilypad.

Then I modified the pin value in the blink sketch, recompiled, and attempted upload with lilypad selected.

The result was the sync error. Thinking I needed to upload to the diecimila I disconnected the lilypad, reset the diecimila and uploaded to it without issue.

Then I reconnected the lilypad, selected lilypad from the IDE, reset the lilypad and attempted upload again.

The upload to the lilypad failed and now the led no longer blinks from the blink sketch. It's like the lilypad lost the blink sketch and was replaced with nothing and i can't upload anything now. I know this sounds crazy. Note that my lilypad does not appear fried cause the led still blinks regularly with the tx/rx connected to the arduino.

Arrrrrrrrrgh !!

Pirate arrrgh.

With the diecimila I have changed pins, powered LED's, etc, etc all within 30 minutes of receiving it.

The lilypad has been nothing but PAIN.

Leah - respectfully, can i send you my lilypad to check it out?

this can't be just me...the deicimila is like a parkwalk to me so i'm fairly sure i'm not a total idiot :-/

2  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 30, 2008, 08:33:32 pm
 ;D yay! My arduino decimilia came today.

Tickler is happy now cause my lilypad is now programmable. Now that I know what to do I connected in an instant.

I learned that to upload to the lilypad via the decimilia, the RX on the decimilia connects to the TX on the lilypad (and vice-versa). This makes sense 'cause outbound should go to inbound, etc.

 smiley-sad ohhhh, i wish it didn't cost me $20 bucks for enlightenment

on the upside, now i can go to raves and burning man sporting my new lilypad powered electro clothes  smiley
3  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 29, 2008, 08:03:51 pm
I'd *really* like to have a final answer since my lilypad is in jeopardy  ;D

Looking *closely* at the photos on the http://lilypad setup section [url]http://www.arduino.cc/en/Guide/ArduinoLilyPad on arduino.cc, we have the mini usb tx (yellow wire) attaching to the rx on the lilypad (rx is exactly at noon on the lilypad).

Are the demo/tutorial photos incorrect?  

Does it depend on the lilypad or mini usb version?

Which is right?

Help me out here...i'm an amateur  :-[

4  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 24, 2008, 11:08:52 pm
Can someone confirm that the TX on the mini USB should connect to the RX on the lilypad?

Looking more closely, it appears that my mini USB is not exactly the same as the one here
http://www.cs.colorado.edu/~buechley/images/diy_lilypad/lilypad_tutorial%20-%2041.JPG so it may have been an error to assume the location of the rx/tx contacts are the same as mine.

I suppose it makes sense that the TX (outbound) on the mini USB should connect to the RX (inbound) on the Lilypad.


5  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 24, 2008, 10:53:37 pm
seems like this is a product change request and/or product opportunity

MAKE IT EASIER TO CONNECT THE LILYPAD TO YOUR PC
6  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 24, 2008, 10:50:18 pm
 :-[ i think i toasted my mini USB trying to read the voltage.

Now both the rx and tx lights are on and if I leave it plugged in it gets *really* hot.

guess i have to order an arduino board and try that.

this really sux...
7  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 24, 2008, 09:16:36 pm
Also went to http://www.ftdichip.com/Drivers/VCP.htm and ran the setup executable, restarted arduino, un/plug'd the lilypad and tried uploading again...no deal  smiley-razz
8  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 24, 2008, 09:11:14 pm
other things i've tried

using telnet to connect to COM3 (verified this is right in device mgr)

using puTTY to connect to COM3

in both cases i couldn't make a connection although I must admit i don't have much experience with the tools.

Is "telnet COM3" proper syntax?

Putty has a gui which I selected COM3 with. Basically i just got a window with a green box cursor which would not allow any typing so i'm assuming the utility couldn't connect.

I suspect that my mini USB connection is working. When I attempt to upload to the lilypad I consistently see three blinks on the TX led on the mini USB board.

I made a coaster to ensure alligator clips are squeezing hard.

STILL...no upload.


9  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 24, 2008, 09:00:54 pm
Mini USB and Lilypad photos:

http://flickr.com/photos/80858441@N00/2217186121/

http://flickr.com/photos/80858441@N00/2217186009/
10  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / :-S arduino lilypad blues :: not in sync on: January 24, 2008, 06:59:49 pm
I'm sooooo bummed that I can't get my lilypad running.

I am using the mini USB adapter to connect the lilypad to my pc.

I've tried everything including:

~Checking my soldering of wires to the USB board to ensure they're clean (they are)
~Set upload.verbose=true although that does not seem to provide any extra troubleshooting or diagnotic info.
~Reset the lilypad before uploading, after uploading, during uploading, at different intervals
~Ensured the proper serial port is selected
~Ensured lilypad arduino board is selected
~installed and reinstalled the USB drivers included with arduino IDE and the updated drivers from the website
~checked the windows event log
~tried a different USB port
~tried different machines: one XP and one Vista
~turned off windows firewall
~rebooted my PCs
~reduced and increased the baud rate on the com port

The LED on the lilypad is blinking rapidly which makes me think the RX is working.

YET, I try to upload the blink sketch and it simply won't upload.

The following error info is returned:

Binary sketch size: 1112 bytes (of a 14336 byte maximum)

    avrdude: stk500_getsync(): not in sync: resp=0x00
   avrdude: stk500_disable(): protocol error, expect=0x14, resp=0x51


What should i do ??

Is there a was to test the mini USB board?

What else can I do? Buy an arduino NG for $40 and see if that works??

Seems I spent $$ on something I will never be able to use :'(

Any ideas??
11  Forum 2005-2010 (read only) / Troubleshooting / Re: com port on: January 27, 2008, 08:23:12 pm
Once my new decimilia arrives i can try these things. In the meanwhile i'm belly up coz I fried my mini-sub (usb).

i'm trying to remain optimistic since the lilypad may one day be the 8088 of electronic clothes...
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