It would take a keen eye to spot a CESIL programmer
CECIL?Never heard of it.
Do you know of anyone whoose FIRST language was CECIL?
(OTOH, I have written systems programs for a mainframe in Lisp. (well, modified, actually. FLAIR replace the Tops20 file archiver daemon with a MacLisp program that FTPed the files to unix systems (which had much cheaper disks), and they needed it updated for a new version of Tops.))
One thing I have noticed over the years is that you can usually tell what language a programmer first learned from the style of their code in their current language.
So, you've used TECO?
QuoteDo you know of anyone whoose FIRST language was CECIL? Well, CESIL was the first language I learned, but not the first I earned a living by.That honour would fall to COBOL.
He didn't call it Forth until 1968. It was supposed to be Fourth but the name space only allowed 5 letters so the u was dropped.Forth is not for people who need lines to color inside. It's almost the opposite to Pascal, capability without controls.It is OOP though I dunno just when creates-does (builds-does in some versions) appeared. Fact is that until I found C++ I never wrote in another language capable of self-extension. It is stack-oriented. You define words by what is expected on the stack, the word name, and what is left on the stack. That helps loads in development, it's very intuitive and fast to code once you understand the basics. I kept a box of 3x5 cards with definitions for my last Forth work.
Charles Moore had the first Forth core in use aiming telescopes 1959. That predates Dartmouth BASIC by 5 years. ]