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oldPGMguy

here are a few of my suggestions....scroll bars...its not good when all your board choices run off screen....ArduinoISP...add all the current chips...a bootloader for all the main chips,328,644,1284,etc that work...then i wouldn't need a incircuit proigrammer....my rant is done
I'm old and started too late with microcontrollers

retrolefty

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Aug 17, 2012, 05:15 pm Last Edit: Aug 17, 2012, 05:17 pm by retrolefty Reason: 1
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a bootloader for all the main chips,328,644,1284,etc that work...then i wouldn't need a incircuit proigrammer....my rant is done


The policy so far for the Arduino developers is to only directly have the IDE support AVR chips that are used with boards that the Arduino company have developed and sell. They have been good at keeping compatiblity for older boards that they use to sell but no longer do (example mega8, mega168). Chips (like the 644, 644p, 1284, tiny series, etc) have never been used in a Arduino designed and sold board. However they have made it so the IDE is easily modified to support other AVR chips and many 3rd party companies that build such boards often supply the files and instructions for supporting non arduino supported AVR chips. Also many forum members have posted about how to go about modifying the IDE to support such 'non-standard' chips.

So does your rant still apply to this chip support issue? Or do you really expect that the Arduino company would spend time and resources directly supporting chip types that they don't even use in their products?

Lefty

CrossRoads

"then i wouldn't need a incircuit proigrammer"
How would you put the bootloader into the chips without an ISP?
Designing & building electrical circuits for over 25 years. Check out the ATMega1284P based Bobuino and other '328P & '1284P creations & offerings at  www.crossroadsfencing.com/BobuinoRev17.
Arduino for Teens available at Amazon.com.

retrolefty

Now that the Arduino IDE optionally allows burning sketches directly via ISP, and any arduino board can become a ISP programmer via loading the proper sketch, one can (If they wish to) just ignore all use and understanding of bootloaders if one wishes. I suspect that is how I will load sketches onto a 1284P board (if I ever get around to building it) using my tinyUSB programmer or another arduino board running the ISP sketch.

Lefty

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