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jihelbi

Sep 05, 2012, 12:57 pm Last Edit: Sep 05, 2012, 01:01 pm by jihelbi Reason: 1
Nike Gammon send me an email and don't permit reply. So I post my response here.

He wrote :
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You posted the exact same message about 4 times. Haven't you heard how annoying cross-posting is? I deleted all of them.

Now, try again. Post in ONE place. Or be banned.

- Moderator



Hey don't be afraid...

It's a rough way to contact a new member for the first time !

I'm french and not yet accustomed of your ultra right meaning and your full lack of empathy.

Perhaps you can be more cool for a first contact. I'm not a criminal guy.

Instead you could help me to post my question in the most relevant topic and delete all my posts except the one in the relevant topic.

Your manner seems too military in this space created in the spirit of Arduino's project (created in Europe by very cool guys).

Perhaps you get a good trip when you banish a member and you are always watching for opportunity to do this.

JLB


AWOL

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Sep 05, 2012, 01:06 pm Last Edit: Sep 05, 2012, 03:23 pm by AWOL Reason: 1
Nick's a polite guy.
Me, I'd've merged all your cross-posts into one, and left you to sort out the mess.

CROSS-POSTING WASTES TIME - DON'T DO IT.

Clear enough?

You have close on 200 posts - surely you must've noticed how antipathetic the forum is to cross-posters?
Moderators are just like a concierge (the kind you used to get in French apartment buildings) - we have to clean up after other people.
As it happens, your cross-posts were reported by another member.

(I'm in Europe too - the bit de Gaulle didn't want in)
"Pete, it's a fool looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart." Ulysses Everett McGill.
Do not send technical questions via personal messaging - they will be ignored.

Constantin

JLB,

As a French person, I am surprised that you wouldn't treat this web-site with the same respect that the French typically show when they shop or enter someone else's home. When I lived in France, I was acutely aware of the social customs inherent in the culture and adjusted my behavior accordingly. As a result, I had several years of great experiences over there, lasting friendships, and so on. Treat this web site with the same respect and I imagine your experience here will be similarly wonderful to my stays in France.

I understand that you might feel bitter about having your posts deleted without a due process but you have very few 'rights' here. It's a free forum, maintained by unpaid volunteers who are trying to keep a semblance of order despite a plethora of posts that come in every day. Moderators sift through this tsunami of information to cull cross-posts, offensive posts, etc. That's a pretty thankless job but it's essential to keep the site going.

Sit back for a moment and think about how cross-posting affects a site like this one, and I'm sure you'll agree that you shouldn't do it. Have a great day.

jihelbi

Until this day my post was unique.

Today I try to post it in a more relevant topic. I would keep the original message only for minutes to make copy/paste before delete it.

After a new post I found a topic more relevant and copy also in this topic and then delete the other posts. But before I have the time to do this (while working and responding phone's calls) I received from moderator an imperative message.

Can you understand my anger ?

JLB


PaulS

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Can you understand my anger ?

No, not really. You should have been paying attention to where to post the topic in the first place.

If, after posting, and not getting much/any/relevant help in that location, you could have picked ONE other place to post. Your shotgun approach is NOT the way to get more responses.

jihelbi

You don't understand... The moderator don't let me time to delete the other posts. Before I can do this I receive this imperative message.

Now I have to retype the entire original message. While working receiving this moderator message cannot be a good news...

JLB

AWOL

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Perhaps you get a good trip when you banish a member

You're absolutely right.

I ban maybe a couple of dozen "members" a day.
Usually because they sign up with usernames like "MoronMoron765" and signatures like "Sacramento florist/Toronto locksmith/Aberdeen escorts/Cheap fake sunglasses/sport shoes/NBA shirts/pirated software" (all highly relevant to the Arduino community, I'm sure you'll agree), or because they actually get through and post thirty or forty copies of their massive SEO campaign before we get to them, and then have to delete the posts one-by-one.

In between times, someone who may or may not know better posts the same question in different parts of the forum, forgetting that a member answering in one thread may not see the response that has already been given in another part of the forum.
This wastes members' time, which is the one thing we all give freely, and yet which is so precious.

If you want to continue benefiting from this community, I suggest you continue your military metaphor, and fall in line.
"Pete, it's a fool looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart." Ulysses Everett McGill.
Do not send technical questions via personal messaging - they will be ignored.

Nick Gammon

To save you retyping, here is one of your messages back:


I have a big issue while trying to use the TinyWire library I2C on Attiny. This library can be found here :

http://arduino.cc/playground/Code/USIi2c

TinyWireS library works fine on a Tiny even at 8 or 16 MHz. I can write and read to the slave device with the Arduino Wire library on my Uno board. I have made tests with various pullups of 10 K, 4K7 or 1K.

My problem (and it's a big one) came with TinyWireM library that never works. Even with 1K, 4K7 or 10K resistors I got the same issue : The endTransmission() function returns error code 1 which means a missing ACK.

Reviewing the code I found that SYS_CLK and F_CPU defines are never used. I try with 1, 8 et 16 MHz CPU clock by fusing the config bits. Always the same result. I have verified the _delay_us() function for each clock, it's OK.

I doubt that somebody uses this library...

JLB



It is irritating when you post multiple copies of your message like that. If someone doesn't reply to the first one, what makes you think they will reply to four of them? I was responding to a complaint from another member who very courteously deals with many posts. Copy and paste is easy. Being courteous and polite on a forum is, apparently, harder.

Nick Gammon

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TinyWireS library works fine on a Tiny even at 8 or 16 MHz. I can write and read to the slave device with the Arduino Wire library on my Uno board. I have made tests with various pullups of 10 K, 4K7 or 1K.


Where is your code?

AlxDroidDev

To the OP:

if you ever participated on any forum before, you'd know how annoying cross posting is. It isn't just arduino.cc that has low tolerance for this: every single forum has zero or no tolerance for cross posting. I take part in several other forums on the internet, on several different subjects: Glocks, Android devel, mountain biking, Arduino, computer hardware, you name it... and I am confident to say that NONE of them has ever allowed cross-posting.

Besides, when did "being French" become an excuse, or since when does it allow you to get more attention or to receive special treatment?

I guess that most people who join the forums do so because they have questions, doubts, and are looking for answers. That said, it's very annoying that one believe his questions deserve more attention or a higher priority than someone else's.

Learn to live: Live to learn.
Showing off my work: http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/topic,126197.0.html

AWOL

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Sep 05, 2012, 02:33 pm Last Edit: Sep 05, 2012, 03:47 pm by AWOL Reason: 1
If you think your handling here was rough, imagine what it could be like on a Glock forum!

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Besides, when did "being French" become an excuse,

Quite right - for special treatment, you have to be a French farmer     :smiley-yell:
"Pete, it's a fool looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart." Ulysses Everett McGill.
Do not send technical questions via personal messaging - they will be ignored.

Jantje

JLB

Nike Gammon send me an email and don't permit reply. So I post my response here.

It is Nick Gammon not Nike Gammon. It is someone who is willing to share his name, time and knowledge. It comes to me you are not willing to share any of those.


I'm french and not yet accustomed of your ultra right meaning and your full lack of empathy.

To me Nick has shown dedication kindness and politeness many times. You have shown none until now.


Perhaps you can be more cool for a first contact. I'm not a criminal guy.

I think you have chosen not to be cool in your first contact and your second and your third. Typing 9 lines is nothing compared 1 day of moderation on the forum. And you are angry about that?

Disrespectfully yours
Jantje

Do not PM me a question unless you are prepared to pay for consultancy.
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