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Game the system? I don't think you can karma yourself
No but you could set up another account to do the karmaing if you actually cared that much about it.
With your karma of 128 and this statement I get suspicious  smiley-twist
Have you tried? smiley-twist

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The clue was in the "if you cared " bit
Most of that Kama was from last time where I had 80 something positave and an equal ammount of negitave giving me an overall Kama of zero.
The problem is there is no feedback mechanism so it can't affect your behavoure because you don't know what you did right or wrong.
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The problem is there is no feedback mechanism so it can't affect your behavoure because you don't know what you did right or wrong.

IOW Karma is useless... smiley-razz
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I noticed the "if you actually cared". I was only joking. From previous encounters I would say you know; but I have the impression others do not.

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The problem is there is no feedback mechanism so it can't affect your behavoure because you don't know what you did right or wrong.

IOW Karma is useless... smiley-razz
I agree that this makes Karma useless as a learning tool to the receiver.
It still shows you how much your positive actions are appreciated. You do not have a clue on the negative ones. And you also have to take into account the possibility of "I don't give karma to this **** who posted 2 days ago an anoying answer"
It is however a tool to be used with caution for the newbee who can use the Karma (in combination with the number of posts) to get an idea of how thrust worthy the info by a member is.
For instance: if 1 member with Karma 1 states it is A and 3 members with Karma 20+ say is is not A; I would know what to believe.

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It is however a tool to be used with caution for the newbee who can use the Karma (in combination with the number of posts) to get an idea of how thrust worthy the info by a member is.
For instance: if 1 member with Karma 1 states it is A and 3 members with Karma 20+ say is is not A; I would know what to believe.

Maybe I'm just being overoptimistic, but I usually feel like I can tell "good" responses from "bad" ones by just reading them in context, and possibly looking at a few other of either author's posts (and yes, the number of posts is relevant).

But I agree that used with caution, as you suggest, karma could be helpful to some.
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If you want to get rid of something that is worthless, drop the "posts" number from all users. There are some here that post a lot, but have nothing to say. At least karma is awarded from others, not yourself.
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If you want to get rid of something that is worthless, drop the "posts" number from all users. There are some here that post a lot, but have nothing to say. At least karma is awarded from others, not yourself.


Perhaps worthless to you, but at best that is a subjective opinion. If we dropped the post count how would we ever know which members are the most prolific in the site statistic page linked below? I once 'won' a $200 credit from the Arduino store for being in the top five posters at the time, so I could personally never call post counts worthless, now could I?

http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php?action=stats

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Maybe I was not clear. Quantity does not guarantee quality. Paying someone to post is not a good way to get forum participation. Not worthless to you, but totally worthless to me. Just my opinion.

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@retrolefty: I was not referring to your participation in the forum. I think you and many others do a fine job. I did not need to see your post count to tell that. Same with fat16lib. Unlike you, and even me, he has a very low post count, because his posts are quality.
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Maybe I was not clear. Quantity does not guarantee quality.
Nor does it preclude it. I would suggest that there is no direct correlation between post counts and post quality. Karma attempts to measure one thing and post count measures something else. One is free to use such metrics, or not, as you wish.

 Paying someone to post is not a good way to get forum participation. Not worthless to you, but totally worthless to me. Just my opinion.
Well it was a one time thank you from the Arduino folks and I'm pretty sure it won't be repeated ever again, at least not based on post counts. The forum was already very large with growing membership so I don't think trying to 'buy forum participation' was a reason for them doing it.

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@retrolefty: I was not referring to your participation in the forum.
I assumed you weren't. But as you did not name names there is no why that I can see if your negative attitude towards displaying total post counts is reasonable or not.  smiley-wink

 I think you and many others do a fine job. I did not need to see your post count to tell that. Same with fat16lib. Unlike you, and even me, he has a very low post count, because his posts are quality.

Well I always read the post contents before deciding if I think a posting is worthwhile or not. I just think you feel that total post counts implies something other then what it actually measures. To me the only possible implication I might take away from my post count is that I don't have a real life.  smiley-wink

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To me the only possible implication I might take away from my post count is that I don't have a real life. 
And I'm worse it appears!  Living the hobby to the max I guess smiley-cool
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To me the only possible implication I might take away from my post count is that I don't have a real life. 
And I'm worse it appears!  Living the hobby to the max I guess smiley-cool
What is this 'real-life' people talk about?  smiley-cool

I've heard tell of a big blue room that some people refer to as outside.  smiley-lol
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Real-life - I think that's the job that pays for the hobby  smiley-twist
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Real-life - I think that's the job that pays for the hobby  smiley-twist

Not if one is retired, then a well funded IRA does the heavy lifting.  smiley-grin

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Got a ways to go for that still - maybe when the kid is out of college, in 5 years.
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Real-life - I think that's the job that pays for the hobby  smiley-twist
It depends, those of us that work for big organizations (corporations, governments, etc.) can often times feel that work is just another virtual universe which has its own rules and regulations, that might be only lightly coupled with reality.   smiley-money

I recall when I first entered cube-ville many years ago, I thought there should be a big pile of cheese at the end of one of the cubes, because I felt like a rat in a pysch. experiment.  smiley-cool
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Not to be off topic but is there any advice from the ones that have been in the industry for a while that you could share with a student who is studying to go into the industry soon?
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