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« on: October 18, 2012, 05:13:34 am » |
I cannot get my Display working. I have connected it as follows:  the only difference is that i used a 2.5kOhm instead of the 10K Poti. This is my actual setup: http://bayimg.com/daepPaaedI have the feeling that the LCD is broken because i cannot get anything when running the LCD-Example from the Arduino Database. But since i havent worked with LCDs before maybe I have made a mistake and somebody can tell me. Thanks in advance!
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2012, 11:28:57 am » |
No you did NOT have a 2.5kohm or a potentiometer. What you have is a resistor or unknown value (your photo color is pretty screwy so no way to tell resistance from color). You also didn't solder the pins to the LCD.
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 11:40:09 am » |
Thanks for the answer! Two questions though:
1.) Do I have to solder the pins the the LCD? Doesnt it get contact otherwise? 2.) I tried a 2.5kOhm resistor and a 10kOhm resistor so far. A Resistor does the same thing as a potentiometer, only it has a fixed value, right?
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 03:07:20 pm » |
Thanks for the answer! Two questions though:
1.) Do I have to solder the pins the the LCD? Doesnt it get contact otherwise? 2.) I tried a 2.5kOhm resistor and a 10kOhm resistor so far. A Resistor does the same thing as a potentiometer, only it has a fixed value, right?
Yes, you solder the pins on. No alternatives. A potentiometer is a variable resistor. You can't vary those cylindrical resistors that you are currently using. If you are in a hurry, go to a local radio shack store and get a potentiometer anywhere between 2k and 20k. Otherwise, get a pack from ebay. Also, put your location information in your profile. Some people can give you location-specific information. Like I can tell you where to get parts locally cheap if you are in my area.
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 05:07:00 pm » |
A Resistor does the same thing as a potentiometer, only it has a fixed value, right? Wrong. Your statement would be correct if you replaced 'potentiometer' with 'rheostat'.A potentiometer is a variable resistor. That's not exactly right either. Your statement would also be correct if you replaced 'potentiometer' with 'rheostat'.At the risk of over simplification: A resistor has two terminals and has a fixed resistance between those two terminals. A rheostat has two terminals and you can adjust the resistance between those two terminals. So, a rheostat is a variable resistor. A potentiometer has three terminals. It has a fixed resistance between the end terminals and a variable resistance between the center terminal and either end terminal. A potentiometer is essentially a variable voltage divider.
So, for LCD contrast control, there really is no way to replace the recommended three terminal potentiometer with a single two terminal resistor. There are those who claim to have conjured up 'solutions' using a single resistor or a single diode that have supposedly worked in certain cases, but I suspect a wad of bubble gum would have also worked in those cases.
You could try connecting pin 3 to GND. That gives a usable, but not optimum, display in some cases.
If that doesn't work you might be successful using two resistors. Try something around 10K between +5 and pin 3 and around 1K between pin 3 and GND.Don
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« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2012, 04:51:52 am » |
Thank you so much! It is working now. I connected Pin3 to GND like advised and soldered the display. Here is the result: http://bayimg.com/gAeJNaAee
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2012, 06:19:36 am » |
there really is no way to replace the recommended three terminal potentiometer with a single two terminal resistor. A pot is the simplest way to go. But it is extreme to say that there is other alternative. For example, you can pwm through a rc network to create a voltage there, and be able to adjust contrast in software.
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2012, 08:31:49 am » |
Here is the result: That's not too bad in terms of my "usable, but not optimum" remark. You could get rid of the light blocks in the unused positions if you added a potentiometer but it probably isn't worth the effort.
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« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2012, 08:40:46 am » |
there really is no way to replace the recommended three terminal potentiometer with a single two terminal resistor. A pot is the simplest way to go. But it is extreme to say that there is other alternative. For example, you can pwm through a rc network to create a voltage there, and be able to adjust contrast in software. In your haste to correct me it appears that you left out a word that reverses the meaning. Either way - read the quoted part again, I didn't say that there is or is not another alternative.Don
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« Reply #9 on: October 19, 2012, 08:50:13 am » |
In your haste to accuse me of in a haste to correct you, let me make it clear to all: correcting anyone, you included, is the least of my haste.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2012, 11:41:45 am » |
there really is no way to replace the recommended three terminal potentiometer with a single two terminal resistor. A pot is the simplest way to go. But it is extreme to say that there is other alternative. For example, you can pwm through a rc network to create a voltage there, and be able to adjust contrast in software. You are offering help to a beginner or trying to show you know more than others? I'm confused here. As a teacher, I don't always tell my students the "complete" story on day one. There are reasons not to tell "complete" stories. I will wait at least another 30 days for the OP to get the RC stuff, which I'm sure floresta knows how to do. Right now, potentiometer is perfect. I am a teacher and liquid crystal physicist, do you see me blabbing about knowing all more about LCD stuff than others? Most HD44780 display spec sheets I read didn't say they recommend RC and PWM anyway, they say 2k to 20k pot.
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