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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 03:01:54 pm » |
A novel approach, next step from that must be surface mount though most of the parts are already mounted on the surface of the MPU LOL
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 03:35:22 pm » |
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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2012, 03:44:37 pm » |
Don't forget my 1284 & 328 boards  
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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2012, 05:43:33 pm » |
There are already some very SMALL.. all SMD Arduino boards..
The standard Arduino Pro Mini is pretty small, too...let's not forget it. I think the OP went home though.
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« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 06:53:07 am » |
Was bored so I tried to make a tiny attiny2313 (DIP) board with ISP headers. Here is what I got: 
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« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2012, 07:32:03 am » |
nice!..
wher are all the other components?
I never used an ATtiny2313 before...
(still need the caps/crystal...etc?)
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« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2012, 07:53:55 am » |
nice!..
wher are all the other components?
I never used an ATtiny2313 before...
(still need the caps/crystal...etc?)
There is no need for any external components, and no attiny/atmega dosen't even need a crystal. They (atleast all I've used) have an 8MHz internal crystal. All you need is voltage and ground.
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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2012, 03:54:37 am » |
Very nice. Don't you need to customize the boards.txt of the Arduino IDE for using the internal 8MHz ? I thought that meant using specific "fuse settings".
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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2012, 04:05:31 am » |
Very nice. Don't you need to customize the boards.txt of the Arduino IDE for using the internal 8MHz ? I thought that meant using specific "fuse settings".
I don't use the arduino IDE. But no, the attiny is not supported. If you want to use the IDE without any custom editing you could do the same board with an atmega168 and program it using "Arduino Pro or Pro Mini (3.3v, 8 MHz) w/ ATmega168".
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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2012, 04:40:11 am » |
There is no need for any external components, and no attiny/atmega dosen't even need a crystal. They (atleast all I've used) have an 8MHz internal crystal. All you need is voltage and ground. Well, you really should have a bypass capacitor on VCC / GND and a pull-up on RESET.
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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2012, 05:40:00 am » |
There is no need for any external components, and no attiny/atmega dosen't even need a crystal. They (atleast all I've used) have an 8MHz internal crystal. All you need is voltage and ground. Well, you really should have a bypass capacitor on VCC / GND and a pull-up on RESET. It's recommended, yes. But as I said I was bored and wanted to make a minimal board (I'm not using it for anything). I've never had any problems without caps or pull-up so I left them out.
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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2012, 05:54:55 am » |
I've never had any problems without caps or pull-up so I left them out.
That's like saying "I never had an accident in my car so why does it need an airbag?"
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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2012, 06:02:31 am » |
I've never had any problems without caps or pull-up so I left them out.
That's like saying "I never had an accident in my car so why does it need an airbag?" It doesn't matter of you have an airbag or not if your just standing still flashing with out headlights.
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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2012, 06:38:09 am » |
What part of the Arduino functionality would you like to keep? At a minimum you need: the '328P 16 MHz crystral two 22pF caps 100nF caps on VCC, AVCC pins using analog? need 100nF cap on the Aref pin 10K reset pullup resistor diode such as 1N4158 across the resistor (anode to reset pin, cathode to Vcc) optional: Header pins to connect FTDI Basic/FTDI cable, and 100nF cap to connect to Reset pin or header pins to connect to ICSP header for rebootloading or for installing bootloaderless sketches place to connect 5V wallwart, or a battery, or a 5V regulator Here's an example for a ATmega1284P type board, a '328P would use a smaller connector This one has both FTDI and ICSP headers, but does not have the diode. It has screw terminal for bring in 5V power from a wallwart or 4.5V from a triple-AA battery pack (I've used both)  why do we need to pull up resistor when we need to use analog ?and also the cap.
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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2012, 08:56:18 am » |
What part of the Arduino functionality would you like to keep? At a minimum you need: the '328P 16 MHz crystral two 22pF caps 100nF caps on VCC, AVCC pins using analog? need 100nF cap on the Aref pin 10K reset pullup resistor diode such as 1N4158 across the resistor (anode to reset pin, cathode to Vcc) optional: Header pins to connect FTDI Basic/FTDI cable, and 100nF cap to connect to Reset pin or header pins to connect to ICSP header for rebootloading or for installing bootloaderless sketches place to connect 5V wallwart, or a battery, or a 5V regulator Here's an example for a ATmega1284P type board, a '328P would use a smaller connector This one has both FTDI and ICSP headers, but does not have the diode. It has screw terminal for bring in 5V power from a wallwart or 4.5V from a triple-AA battery pack (I've used both)  why do we need to pull up resistor when we need to use analog ?and also the cap. ATtiny2313 doesn't have analog input :>
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