If you don't use a crystal or ceramic resonator on your atmel mcu, then the clock frequency will very probably not be accurate enough for the bootloader to work even if you do manage to burn it. However, you can still use ArduinoISP to upload your sketch directly, without a bootloader. See http://miscsolutions.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/prototyping-small-embedded-projects-with-arduino/ for how I used to do it before I purchased an AVRISPmkII.
Follow this tutorial:http://pdp11.byethost12.com/AVR/ArduinoAsProgrammer.htmReplace the atmega328p with your atmega8 and do not add any crystal and capacitors.By doing so you can burn any code you like in your atmega8, including a bootloader if you really want to write one. In most cases, for stand alone applications, the bootloader is not necessary.
i cant believe this 9500 character limit so i had to split it into 7 posts, please go forth and read
please for the love of god DO NOT "LINK" TUTORIALS just lay out what i need to do HERE
Quote from: mysteredding on Nov 25, 2012, 11:08 ami cant believe this 9500 character limit so i had to split it into 7 posts, please go forth and readYou can attach files to your post you know. Making 7 posts just to attach files is a mis-use of the forum. You can attach multiple files, or make a single .zip file.Quoteplease for the love of god DO NOT "LINK" TUTORIALS just lay out what i need to do HEREIf there is a tutorial, that explains what to do, why should it be copied and pasted here, when you just have to go to a link? The tutorial might have photos, etc.