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sbright33

Dec 06, 2012, 08:26 amLast Edit: Dec 06, 2012, 08:53 am by sbright33 Reason: 1
http://www.artmusicdance.com/vaspi/highlights.htm

Do you like math?  Take some time to read this.  Click some of his links.  What do you think?

He found messages written by God in Pi ...

DuaneB

#1
Dec 06, 2012, 09:03 am
Personally I wonder about this guy, I enjoy some of his music and he holds some significant accademic positions, but he is also clearly nuts -

Duane B
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-with-arduino-part-1.html
then watch this
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-part-2-demonstration.html

Rcarduino.blogspot.com

sbright33

#2
Dec 06, 2012, 09:11 am
Maybe he's just really stoned or tripping in that video.  Anybody who loves music is alright by me!
What about his math knowledge?  Does it make sense?  Can you follow it?  Do you see any mistakes?

DuaneB

#3
Dec 07, 2012, 12:00 pm
I skipped through the article and when i read something along the lines of 'proves the existence of the pythagorean god, not the god of the many religions' i decided on 'nutter' on the basis of -

Here are some weak links between a few things - i am going to ignore that many thing are rather difficult to discover and do not have similar links but will still conclude that my few examples prove the existence of god and to cap it all, its not god after all.

Eh ?

Duane B
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-with-arduino-part-1.html
then watch this
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-part-2-demonstration.html

Rcarduino.blogspot.com

GoForSmoke

#4
Dec 07, 2012, 06:51 pm
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When I was eighteen years I noticed the 3_4_5 right at the start of pi.

3.14159.....

What 3_4_5 ?

This guy takes a running start at nutter.

2) http://gammon.com.au/serial <-- techniques howto
3) http://gammon.com.au/interrupts
Your sketch can sense ongoing process events in time.
Your sketch can make events to control it over time.

liuzengqiang

#5
Dec 09, 2012, 06:47 pm
Did anyone notice what it reads if you write 3.14 and flip to the back side and read again? Trying to find some pattern in pi is a pretty foolish behavior of maybe obsession of arithmetic and the inability to understand more advanced mathematics at intro college science engineering level that finds pi value through calculus. What these nuts really love is to find a location where the local gravity is the square of pi. Maybe that is where their god is.

#6
Dec 09, 2012, 06:54 pm
Of course, this whole argument only makes sense in Base 10 math.
Do it in Octal, Hex, I bet the results don't show any of these quirky patterns at all.
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sbright33

#7
Dec 09, 2012, 08:18 pm
That's exactly his point Crossroads.  No patterns show up in the beginning of Pi using any other base.  There is nothing unique about base 10.  We chose it because of our fingers?  This proves that there is some connection between the base we use and the number Pi.  Almost as if it were a message to us...  He subtracted a constant from Pi and found no patterns in the beginning of the result.  There is no simple constant you can add or subtract which creates interesting patterns.  Nobody is buying it?

GoForSmoke

#8
Dec 09, 2012, 10:15 pm
Just because you think there's a pattern doesn't make it real.

Pi is an irrational number (can't be expressed as a ratio of integers) regardless of base. It is the relation of flat space to lines if you look close. It is very important but will not reduce to anybody's short-cut BS philosophy. It's as simple as a circle without the meanings idiots would attach to that for which I am grateful, math is difficult enough without adding superstition.

Pi --- starting with 3 - 4 - 5? Oh puh-leeese! That twerp could care less about Pi, he's off on his own trip.

I'd put money on the whole thing being an exercise in image-pumping for the next release. I guess he had to go with Pi since Jon Anderson took the Golden Ratio for his revelation tool.

2) http://gammon.com.au/serial <-- techniques howto
3) http://gammon.com.au/interrupts
Your sketch can sense ongoing process events in time.
Your sketch can make events to control it over time.

liuzengqiang

#9
Dec 09, 2012, 11:49 pm

Pi is an irrational number (can't be expressed as a ratio of integers) regardless of base.

Exactly. Or alternatively put it, a result of two incommensurate periods. I wonder why there's not as much fascination to other irrational numbers such as square root of 2 being 1.4142136... It's every bit as practical as pi. If you see some independent variable change by a factor of 2 but your dependent variable only changing about 40%, you are likely looking at a y=sqrt(x) situation. I routinely cancel square of pi with gravity g since their numerical values only differ by less than 1%. There's no hidden message here. Just numerical coincidence. I also hate the calender. Some irrelevant initial conditions have set the period of earth rotation, revolution around sun and moon revolution around earth and we are trying to make sense by hodgepodging these three incommensurate periods together into various calenders even to this day. The crazy leap day, some once per 4 years but not per 100 years but again per 400 years and again some stuff 8000 year you will have to do what?!

#10
Dec 10, 2012, 12:47 am
Don't forget leap seconds too

And with the Mayan calendar running out ...
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liuzengqiang

#11
Dec 10, 2012, 12:50 am
Essentially if you drive X channel with day and Y channel with year, your Lissajous curve will never close.

Grumpy_Mike

#12
Dec 10, 2012, 01:01 am
That is only because there is no relationship between the rotation of the Earth on its axis and the orbit of the Earth round the Sun. All the leap units of time compensate and stop the seasons drifting round the calander. Messages from God ought to start, Dear Mankind, otherwise you are just making it up.

RanTalbott

#13
Dec 10, 2012, 01:04 am

There is nothing unique about base 10.  We chose it because of our fingers?  This proves that there is some connection between the base we use and the number Pi.

There you have it: incontrovertible proof that evolution is a lie, and we were intelligently designed with 10 fingers so we would choose decimal numbers and find the secret messages embedded in the value of pi  ]

And if that's not enough, don't forget that our eyes' spectral response was designed so we could see Jesus in that grilled cheese sandwich on ebay.

What more could you ask for?