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Lakes

I missed them... :)

Still, would be nice to have on the "non-component" as well.

fkeel

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Dec 18, 2012, 03:31 pm Last Edit: Dec 18, 2012, 03:34 pm by fkeel Reason: 1


There is a part of me (my feminist side) that finds such targeting condescending...


Adults wishing that gender stereotypes don't exist won't make it so.

Little girls that play with toy cars and little boys that play with dolls are the exceptions.



I agree with crOsh. I find the title "female arduino" a bit problematic. (my first thought actually was "huh - they already have female pins".

cr0sh was not suggesting that the stereotypes dont exist - he was (I believe) commenting that there is no need to reinforce them. Calling this a "female" arduino somehow suggests that all the others (except maybe the lillypad, cause its purple :-S ) are a for men.

Dont get me wrong. I love the design, and I think many girls will like it. But just call it "Matryoshka-Duino" or whatnot.

Calling it a female arduino implicitly saying "Hello girls - electronics are a mans domain. So you cant relate to it. But hey. You can relate to dolls. So now we have made a doll shaped arduino, which you can relate to". Its also saying "Hello guys. Look we put a lot of effort into this design. Therefore its not for you. Electronics which are designed beautiful are not your domain".

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I know you will probably say that I am interpreting too much into this, but if you give it some thought, the message is implicitly there. Also - Seedstudio - I am not trying to frame you as sexists or something. I do not think you intend to say what I believe the implicit message is. I applaud you for your creative design - I really like it. I just suggest you think about how you want to market this.

p.

seeedstudio




There is a part of me (my feminist side) that finds such targeting condescending...


Adults wishing that gender stereotypes don't exist won't make it so.

Little girls that play with toy cars and little boys that play with dolls are the exceptions.



I agree with crOsh. I find the title "female arduino" a bit problematic. (my first thought actually was "huh - they already have female pins".

cr0sh was not suggesting that the stereotypes dont exist - he was (I believe) commenting that there is no need to reinforce them. Calling this a "female" arduino somehow suggests that all the others (except maybe the lillypad, cause its purple :-S ) are a for men.

Dont get me wrong. I love the design, and I think many girls will like it. But just call it "Matryoshka-Duino" or whatnot.

Calling it a female arduino implicitly saying "Hello girls - electronics are a mans domain. So you cant relate to it. But hey. You can relate to dolls. So now we have made a doll shaped arduino, which you can relate to". Its also saying "Hello guys. Look we put a lot of effort into this design. Therefore its not for you. Electronics which are designed beautiful are not your domain".

*

I know you will probably say that I am interpreting too much into this, but if you give it some thought, the message is implicitly there. Also - Seedstudio - I am not trying to frame you as sexists or something. I do not think you intend to say what I believe the implicit message is. I applaud you for your creative design - I really like it. I just suggest you think about how you want to market this.

p.


Hi Cr0sh and fkeel, thank you so much for sharing your opinions with us. This new version Seeeduino is called 'female version' is because the board has the shape of a cute little girl. It doesn't mean this board is designed only for lady makers.

Sorry that we did not define it clearly in the first place. This board should be taken as a combination of arts and technology. By designing this new version Seeeduino, Seeed wants to show that technology can be cute.

By combining arts and technology, we can create a bunch of cool and aesthetic stuff, which might surprise us! In the long run, we will have more cooperation with people from different fields, to have more versatile products.

Please don't be misled by the silly definition we gave to this board earlier. Thanks again for pointing it out and giving us the chance to clarify the misunderstanding.

Currently we are collecting ideas for giving this board a name, which will be used when we launch this new product to the market. Hope you guys could share your creative ideas with us^^

Thanks again for your invaluable ideas:)

fkeel

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Dec 18, 2012, 04:40 pm Last Edit: Dec 18, 2012, 04:43 pm by fkeel Reason: 1
hey seedstudio people :-)

Again, I applaud your work - I by no means mean to discourage you pursuing creative alternative designs. I just encourage you to be sensitive to this issue, when deciding on a final name for the board.

Edit: About the name - I like what fungus originally suggested : Matroyskuino (though I would call it Matroyskino I think :-)

fungus


I agree with crOsh. I find the title "female arduino" a bit problematic. (my first thought actually was "huh - they already have female pins".


Yeah, Ok, I'll go along with that. Keep gender out of the name.



Dont get me wrong. I love the design, and I think many girls will like it. But just call it "Matryoshka-Duino" or whatnot.


Matroyskuino.

No, I don't answer questions sent in private messages (but I do accept thank-you notes...)

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