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billroy

I prefer to maintain control over what is installed in my environment.  I _really dislike_ automatic updaters.  I don't even like the IDE phoning home to check for updates.

There have been enough backwards incompatibilities introduced in the release series that this would have been disastrous for my projects, at least.

I would strongly prefer that automatic updates and an installer _not_ happen. 

One man's opinion.

-br

eried


I prefer to maintain control over what is installed in my environment.  I _really dislike_ automatic updaters.  I don't even like the IDE phoning home to check for updates.

There have been enough backwards incompatibilities introduced in the release series that this would have been disastrous for my projects, at least.

I would strongly prefer that automatic updates and an installer _not_ happen.  

One man's opinion.

-br



Yeah, I dislike automatic updates also (in fact, I forced them off in my installer, and it is the first thing I do after installing anything). And of course the files should be always be available without installer, a plain zip.

But I am talking about the main stream of people, they register an account here and the first post they make is to complain because something an automated setup would avoided. With some guy here we spammed the forum a lot like 2 months ago and almost every post ended by "download this...", usually they don't even reply to the post after the problem disappeared, but in conclusion I felt (maybe was an illusion) than our forum went a little more cleaner just because usually legacy users are the ones answering these repetitive questions over and over again.
My website: http://ried.cl

tuxduino


It adds an extra layer of problems for some people. Just take a look into the issues forum (the first one), drivers, something wrong setting the exe, etc, are mainly the issues for Windows users.


Then ditch windows users  ]:D


(no wait, I'd _hate_ living in a bunker...)

billroy

Eried, I have great respect for your work.  I believe the problem you are pointing out is a real one, but I have a different view of the solution.

You know those signs at amusement park rides that say "you must be at least this tall…"?  Someone who can't get through the IDE install is just going to hit the next brick wall at a higher rate of speed if you grease the first speedbump for them.  If you've been reading around the forum lately, you'll know just what I mean.

My point being, you can't save the clueless from their cluelessness, and it's a social deadweight loss to inconvenience the competent in the attempt.

Just my two cents.

Holiday Best,

-br


eried

I know billroy, it is often weird to thing that someone who can't install the ide will be able to program it, I didn't started to keep my mod updated for them, it is for other windows users, living with a slightly inferior version, an ugly icon, bt dongle delaying 30 secs every operation, small things like that.

Maybe some focus group or something is missing to check in the real world if people who can't set properly the environment from a zip are really able to use the arduino or no properly, at the end of the day the forum stays less filled with these kind of problems and some more interesting issues start to appear.
My website: http://ried.cl

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