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anorton

Ok... I have another question. :)

I purchased a "Sidekick" kit from Amazon with my Arduino.  (link: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007B14HM8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&smid=A1LHQ5G6ONPXVT)  I figured that, because I don't have a lot of components (e.g. resistors, etc.), it would be a good start for electrical components as I experiment.

HOWEVER... It doesn't come with documentation.  I can figure out the resistors (those are obvious), the mini servo that comes with it has a manufacturer and part # on it, but the LEDs are unmarked.  I know they're 2mm (from measuring), but don't know where to find a datasheet on them.  There's also an RGB LED that is unmarked.

My question:
What do you do to determine the specs for a component with no documentation?  (Or, if there isn't a cut/dry way, what do you do when you're in that situation?)

Thanks!

//Andrew

vasquo

Compute your resistor for 10mA forward current and go from there... adjust if it's too bright or too dim.

LarryD

LED information, start here.
http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/components/led.htm
The way you have it in your schematic isn't the same as how you have it wired up!

anorton


Compute your resistor for 10mA forward current and go from there... adjust if it's too bright or too dim.

What do I do about forward voltage?

dhenry

5 - 20ma is a good range for most leds.

LarryD

Forward voltage: calculate the resistance using 2 volts. Then measure the actual forward voltage with a meter.
The way you have it in your schematic isn't the same as how you have it wired up!

retrolefty

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Jan 07, 2013, 03:07 am Last Edit: Jan 07, 2013, 03:09 am by retrolefty Reason: 1


Compute your resistor for 10mA forward current and go from there... adjust if it's too bright or too dim.

What do I do about forward voltage?


Nothing really, just use a 500 ohm series resistor between the led and wire that network between ground and the 5V pin on your arduino. The led will light up if you have the polarity of the led wired correctly. Once you see it lite up you can measure the voltage drop across the led with your digital multimeter and you will then know what it's forward voltage drop value is. That can then be used to calculate a series resistor value to run the led at whatever current you wish. Most common leds are rated for 20ma maximum continous current, but they are useful indicators lights at any current from 3 ma up to 20ma. There is no reason you have to run an led at a full 20ma, many people spend way to much time worrying and fussing about that, just run them at 10ma and life gets simple. You will find that the color of the led is what has the biggest effect on it's forward voltage drop rating. Red are around 1.5vdc.

Lefty

anorton


Forward voltage: calculate the resistance using 2 volts. Then measure the actual forward voltage with a meter.

oh.  I should have thought of that... :smiley-red:  Thanks!

//Andrew

anorton

Thank you very much for all your help (to those who responded)!

I now have my LEDs up and running, and my multimeter correlates that I'm under 10mA (and boy is it bright) with ~2V drop across LED. :)

//Andrew

LarryD

More resistance less light.
The way you have it in your schematic isn't the same as how you have it wired up!

danb35


What do I do about forward voltage?

Measure it with the diode setting on your DMM.  If you don't have a DMM with a diode setting, you really should.  Or, do as otherwise suggested here--pick a resistor value, wire it up, and then measure it.

jackrae



What do I do about forward voltage?

Measure it with the diode setting on your DMM.  If you don't have a DMM with a diode setting, you really should.  Or, do as otherwise suggested here--pick a resistor value, wire it up, and then measure it.


Now that is a clever idea  ;)

dhenry

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Measure it with the diode setting on your DMM.


Only works if the dmm uses a high voltage battery (9v for example).

Krupski


Measure it with the diode setting on your DMM.  If you don't have a DMM with a diode setting, you really should.  Or, do as otherwise suggested here--pick a resistor value, wire it up, and then measure it.


I made myself an LED tester. I use it all the time. It's almost indispensable. It's just a current regulator set to 20 milliamps and a 9 volt battery - no power switch... and I can measure the forward voltage of any LED just by sticking my voltmeter across a lit LED.

Gentlemen may prefer Blondes, but Real Men prefer Redheads!

retrolefty

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Jan 08, 2013, 05:27 am Last Edit: Jan 08, 2013, 05:30 am by retrolefty Reason: 1


Measure it with the diode setting on your DMM.  If you don't have a DMM with a diode setting, you really should.  Or, do as otherwise suggested here--pick a resistor value, wire it up, and then measure it.


I made myself an LED tester. I use it all the time. It's almost indispensable. It's just a current regulator set to 20 milliamps and a 9 volt battery - no power switch... and I can measure the forward voltage of any LED just by sticking my voltmeter across a lit LED.




How did you deal with possible reverse polarity connection to the led? (retorical question, you didn't deal with it per your drawing)  ;)

Most standard leds have a maximum reverse voltage rating of only 5vdc. An internal series diode in series with the test leads output would probably be enough.

Lefty

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