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« on: January 23, 2013, 05:18:45 am » |
I'm ashamed to say that I have just fitted an ATMega328 to my Arduino Uno, but got the orientation wrong !!!! (What a twit !! - I am now marking the pin 1 end with a blob of Tipp-ex on both chips and board to hopefully prevent this happening again. Have a damaged either the ATMega or the Arduino ?? Appreciate any help on this embarressing issue !!! 
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2013, 05:28:31 am » |
Does it work?
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 06:16:32 am » |
Yes, I think it does, but haven't done too much testing yet ! (I move the chip to another board to use it) Thought that I should seek the advice of others first about whether I've done any damage (more worried about the Arduino obviously - I can afford to lose an ATMega chip !)
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 07:17:21 am » |
Yes done it myself, it happens to us all.
No damage noticed but I won't go building it into a life support system.
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 07:48:59 am » |
Yes done it myself, it happens to us all.
No damage noticed but I won't go building it into a life support system.
... so are you saying that I can carry on and use both without endangering anything ?? (Don't worry - I wouldn't trust my coding to anything vaguely important !!) Thanks for your help, by the way - much appreciated !
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 08:17:32 am » |
so are you saying that I can carry on and use both without endangering anything ? Yes indeed that is what I am saying.
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2013, 10:01:16 am » |
Look at the pinout for a '328, When the DIP part is installed backwards, VCC/GND from pins 7/8 and up at Aref/GND at pins 21/22, and Aref/Gnd end up at pins 7/8. Avcc ends at PD4, and PD4 ends with Avcc. I think that's what save the part from being damaged. Vcc and Avcc are not shorted out, Gnd is still at Gnd. The bootloader/sketch are not started because the oscillator is not hooked up. I've done this myself also (and have now marked my boards as well) and have not seen any damage occur - the chip does not get warm even, which is usually a good sign of excess current being drawn.
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« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2013, 04:44:26 pm » |
That's great !! Thank you all for helping me out with your advice ! 
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« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2013, 04:51:15 pm » |
It is not only the dot, the chip has an indentation too   For me is easier to identify on low light using that shape 
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The last thing you did is where you should start looking.
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« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2013, 05:48:19 pm » |
Helps to paint a large white large dot near pin one of the chip and the PCB.
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« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2013, 05:55:22 pm » |
Finger nail polish is good for that. I use a bright lime green color. (Also works well on gun sites.)
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« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2013, 10:43:39 pm » |
My board has the notch silkscreened on it, as well as the socket has a notch, as well as the chip having a notch.
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« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2013, 10:45:59 pm » |
My board has the notch silkscreened on it, as well as the socket has a notch, as well as the chip having a notch.
Some need more of a hint then that I guess.  Lefty
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2013, 04:07:15 am » |
I use that liquid paper correcting fluid to mark the ends of plugs and sockets. I also put a dab by pin one when I have burnt a boot loader into a 328 chip.
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Quick, chuck it in the bin before the boss finds out...
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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2013, 04:37:20 am » |
One of my 'knock off' boards has the socket, and therefore the notch, the wrong way round!
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