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[Reply #15 on:]

I meant  around 100Mhz  or so.

where I'm from the federal laws say its illegal, but the state laws point to it being legal. Even laser jammers are legal where I'm from.

Isn't it funny how the state of California legalized a federally band substance? Then told the federal government that law dose not apply here. That's because the states tell the federal government what to do its always been like that and it has to stay like that. Unless you want to be a slave.

I don't know where you get your legal advice but your source is just plain wrong. The FCC (F as in Federal) has all jurisdiction of RF laws, the States have absolutely no jurisdiction to change or even supplement the FCC rules and regulations.

Lefty  (WA6TKD amateur extra class)

[Reply #16 on:]

I think your best bet would be a big ars Faraday Cage. Else you would need to create a  type of frequency generator and the Arduino inst going to help you there short of using it to control timing of the generator. You need to generate a 100mhz signal that on your property would be stronger than the signal coming onto your property.  Only issue is and I cant stress this enough. The FCC overrules your city and state government.

[Reply #17 on:]

Let us know when they come get you. Maybe somebody will bring you cigarettes on visiting day.

[Reply #18 on:]

http://www.fcc.gov/document/consumer-alert-using-or-importing-jammers-illegal

batch of "Ÿ" at documnet,  FCC does not know  how to encode UTF-8?

[Reply #19 on:]

I meant  around 100Mhz  or so.

where I'm from the federal laws say its illegal, but the state laws point to it being legal. Even laser jammers are legal where I'm from.

Isn't it funny how the state of California legalized a federally band substance? Then told the federal government that law dose not apply here. That's because the states tell the federal government what to do its always been like that and it has to stay like that. Unless you want to be a slave.

I don't know where you get your legal advice but your source is just plain wrong. The FCC (F as in Federal) has all jurisdiction of RF laws, the States have absolutely no jurisdiction to change or even supplement the FCC rules and regulations.

Lefty  (WA6TKD amateur extra class)

It would be kind of interesting if it were up to the states though.  And by "interesting" I mean nearly impossible to use. Having your OTA TV signal go to crap because someone in the next state over is using that frequency for their wireless network. Makes me wonder how they did it in Europe. If they had the foresight to set up international standards first, or if they waited till something FUBAR'd.

[Reply #20 on:]

well first of all the only FCC law that can be found on jammers only specify cell phone, wifi, GPS and radio bands that company's or people own. On the wiki it states that the law is not enforced by the FCC, since no one has been charged with the crime.

On the other hand I just wanted to see how it was done and I had no malicious intent(believe it or not). I could have just asked how to turn the arduino into a FM transmitter as easily as asking how to make a jammer.
Anyways I figured it out so most of you just waisted your time bickering and talking none sense.

[Reply #21 on:]

just waisted your time bickering and talking none sense.

Oh! The irony

well first of all the only FCC law that can be found on jammers only specify cell phone, wifi, GPS and radio bands that company's or people own

You mean, like licensed broadcasters in the FM band?

[Reply #22 on:]

I meant  around 100Mhz  or so.

where I'm from the federal laws say its illegal, but the state laws point to it being legal. Even laser jammers are legal where I'm from.

Isn't it funny how the state of California legalized a federally band substance? Then told the federal government that law dose not apply here. That's because the states tell the federal government what to do its always been like that and it has to stay like that. Unless you want to be a slave.

I don't know where you get your legal advice but your source is just plain wrong. The FCC (F as in Federal) has all jurisdiction of RF laws, the States have absolutely no jurisdiction to change or even supplement the FCC rules and regulations.

Lefty  (WA6TKD amateur extra class)

No they dont! Some states have band RF ID tag implants in humans. What does the FCC have to say about that?

[Reply #23 on:]

Some states have band RF ID tag implants in humans. What does the FCC have to say about that?

Wuh?

[Reply #24 on:]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microchip_implant_(human)#Legislation

[Reply #25 on:]

Ok, let me rephrase - "So?"

[Reply #26 on:]

Some states have band RF ID tag implants in humans. What does the FCC have to say about that?

The FCC would be totally silent on the human rights issues to do with that, and the medical ethics and medical technicalities of performing the necessary procedures. But somewhere in their regs they'll cover the radio-related technicalities such as frequencies and powers that such devices may use. They might even remain silent on referring to a device called a "RF ID tag", but the transmission of any radio frequencies in the whole of the RF spectrum is covered by the FCC's regs and therefore so are RF ID tags, even if they don't name them as such.

So what was the point of your question?

[Reply #27 on:]

There are ISM bands that are unregulated.  This is commonly the 2.4GHz band and the 915MHz band in the Unites States.  There may be others but it is not something I worry about too much.  This is why pace makers are always a concern around microwaves etc.  RFID operates in these unregulated bands.
A state banning implanted RFID is adding restriction on top of federal restrictions.  There is nothing wrong with that.  What a state cannot do is allow what the government does not allow.

[Reply #28 on:]

The FCC may issue a permit that waives the law for private use.

[Reply #29 on:]

The FCC may issue a permit that waives the law for private use.

And that would be their prerogative: it's their law after all.

But that's not the same as a State waiving a Federal law; it's not their prerogative to do that since a Feds trump the State.