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wiremanflash

I'm new to Arduino and c++ programming.  At first I thought I'd really found a pretty cool gizmo and usergroup.  I'm confronted by a community that is worse than unhelpful.  This forum, and published books written by some of it's big members, are bristling with trash.  I could produce a huge post, full of screen captures, page scans, and links to errors, and I'm not talking simple spelling and typographic errors,,,, but I won't.

READ YOUR POSTS before you post them!!!!!!!  Better yet, cut and paste it to your notepad, and post it a few hours later, or even the next day.  Maybe I need to use larger, more universal terms; READ ANYTHING you write before you expose others to it.

I've dealt with computer and industrial documentation, programming, standards, codes, and forums since the early 1980s.  I'm absolutely sickened by this crap.   Hell, click "reference" at the homepage to find throbbing recklessness (I don't feel it's my place to pronounce it to be stupidity).

The people who most need to be hit over the head with this probably won't even read this, but maybe you don't yet see yourself as an "expert".  There's hope for you.  If you intend to write a beginners guide to ANYTHING, once you think you're done, have a couple beginners read it.  Then beg them to explain your material to you, and make suggestions.

And if you find an error late, go correct it.


Coding Badly

I'm confronted by a community that is worse than unhelpful.


Insulting millions of people.  Good place to start.


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READ YOUR POSTS before you post them!!!!!!!


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Arduino Forum :: Using Arduino :: Programming Questions
Understanding the language, error messages, etc.


Oh, the irony.

marco_c

I am confused by the rant, to be honest.

For my own clarity, are you flaming about the content of posts (mostly written by beginners or people learning), the spelling mistakes (of non english speakers, for the most part) or the books people write (which has probably nothing to do with this forum)?
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jrdoner

My, my.  That's tolerance!   The fact is, not everybody in this forum writes exquisitely fine English, and some are not writing English as a first language.  Also, I admit that sometimes I read posts that are so short of detail that I can't begin to know how to help the poster.   

But I regard this as a learning club:  we all start somewhere, and the very fact that our members are trying to spend their time doing something productive and exercising their brains, and in which I am personally very interested, is good enough for me.  I'll pitch in and help when I can, even if the exposition isn't up to college English standards.

I suggest you start your own forum.  As moderator, you can kick nearly everyone out, but you'll feel ever so proud of your own posts.

DuaneB

A reference to the quality of opinion, communication and technical assistance we should all aim towards -

http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=172409;sa=showPosts

Duane B
Read this
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-with-arduino-part-1.html
then watch this
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-part-2-demonstration.html

Rcarduino.blogspot.com

Boardburner2

Umm.
Just to be clear, this is the Bar Sport forum.

DuaneB

And the link I posted is not a guide to anything at all but rather a link to the OPs recent posts, bar sport indeed.

Duane B
Read this
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-with-arduino-part-1.html
then watch this
http://rcarduino.blogspot.com/2012/04/servo-problems-part-2-demonstration.html

Rcarduino.blogspot.com

retrolefty

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And if you find an error late, go correct it.



Hey, your not the boss on me!

Lefty

Boardburner2


And the link I posted is not a guide to anything at all but rather a link to the OPs recent posts, bar sport indeed.

Duane B


Cross post, I had not seen yours and was commenting on origional msg.

AWOL

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Umm.
Just to be clear, this is the Bar Sport forum.
Yeah, I moved it from Programming to here, because we don't have a Troll/Rant section on the forum (yet)
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el_supremo

It would perhaps be useful if, when a mod moves a thread, the forum software automatically adds a message in the thread from the mod saying which group the message originally came from. It would then be clear to everyone that comments previous to that were posted when the thread was in a different forum.

Pete

retrolefty


It would perhaps be useful if, when a mod moves a thread, the forum software automatically adds a message in the thread from the mod saying which group the message originally came from. It would then be clear to everyone that comments previous to that were posted when the thread was in a different forum.

Pete


And that adds value because?

Coding Badly

And that adds value because?


Reduces the embarrassment I'm suffering from my now non sequitur post.   =(

Jack Christensen


Reduces the embarrassment I'm suffering from my now non sequitur post.   =(


LOL, I just now got here and I was scratching my head just a bit ;)

But back to the main point. Zowie. I've also been around since the 80s (or so) and I don't think I remember a better forum. I think I can usually hold my own and keep out of trouble but some of the folks here are downright brilliant, with great depths of experience and knowledge. And helpful. This is the Internet so there is always the wheat and chaff thing; that should be a surprise to no one. But with the right filters, I'd say that a lot of what goes on here is better than much of what I saw in my professional career.

Bottom line, I'd have to agree with jrdoner -- In the spirit of open source, we're always happy to be shown how to do it better.


I'm new to Arduino and c++ programming.


If it had been me, then maybe, just maybe, I wouldn't have jumped to conclusions quite so fast.

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At first I thought I'd really found a pretty cool gizmo and usergroup.


Correct on both counts.

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... published books ...


I've only read one or two, and while I can certainly find issues, on the whole I've found them good. I cut the authors some slack as this is a relatively new and fast-moving arena.
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Osgeld

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Apr 23, 2013, 02:30 am Last Edit: Apr 23, 2013, 02:54 am by Osgeld Reason: 1
yawn, another noob that is frustrated takes it out on a group of hobbiest nerds on how they are not experts, when they are in fact NOT EXPERTS


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