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I did not mean to make it sound funny. It is a potential reality. I was only comparing the severity of the damage. That is one of the reasons I do not help with GPS and navigational problems.

edit: If you found it disturbing and maybe a bit scary, then that is the effect I was going for.
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I'm afraid I had assumed from your earlier post that you were part of the "pro-weapons" lobby rather than a pacifist. I apologise.

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That is one of the reasons I do not help with GPS and navigational problems.
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With the advent of 3D printers producing guns, and ever increasingly more powerful capacitors...

Guns and electromagnetic coil guns are here to stay, I've heard every excuse to keep guns legal for everyone in the US of A, without guns only criminals have guns, guns
don't shoot people (yup true) people do...

I'd tackle the mental health system first, stop the crazies from shooting innocent people before i'd worry about gangs with guns... if guns worried people so much they'd be banned almost everywhere! and they are except a handful of countries like America i'm all for gun ownership, but if the cost of that is a life, something's horribly wrong.
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Just to make my position clear, I am not as much of a pacifist as it appears from that one statement. It is  bad enough that these weapons are in the hands of the military establishments worldwide, but to have them in the hands of drug cartels or terrorist organisations, that is something completely different.

I am not against the personal possession of guns like revolvers and shotguns, just certain types. Here are some weapons I do not think civilians should be able to own:
automatic AK-47
40mm grenade launcher
105mm howitzer
RPG
cruise missile
TOW missile
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I am not against the personal possession of guns like revolvers and shotguns,
Yes I feel a lot happier at the thought of being killed by a shot gun or revolver so much more personal.
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I am not against the personal possession of guns like revolvers and shotguns,
Yes I feel a lot happier at the thought of being killed by a shot gun or revolver so much more personal.
Or beat to death with a club or rock? Maybe stabbed with a sword or spear is better? You could destroy all the firearms on the planet, and humans would still find a way to kill each other.

People talk like the first murder victim died from a gunshot wound.
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I'm with Coding Badly on this; I have no problem with chronographs, but I did ask the author of that particular recent thread to delete the ad hominem attack and the whine about the perceived trolling on his/her thread.
It didn't happen so I amended the post myself.

I can't be prissy about weapons (I used to work on guidance system research), but I think a chronograph capable of measuring up to 5000fps (about Mach 4.5) suggests to me the intended use borders on the "destructive weapon" classification.
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I find it very disturbing when people make humour out of killing people - whether a mile away or a nation away.

Enough people are killed and injured in accidents every day without doing it on purpose.

...R

Yes, but as it has already been said, you want to censor the forum regarding a topic that is perfectly legal..... mainly because you do not like it?

What really kill and maim people are the following: Smoking, traffic, overeating, sitting in front of the computer instead of exercising and medical errors. The number killed by guns is microscopic compared to these other factors.
More than 20000 Americans die from the pollution from coal fired plants each year (and more than 100000 people in India).


Computers are the primary means of the proliferation of child pornography and revolutionary ideas. But should we ban the computers and the internet because of that?
Just like the guns, the computers have lots of perfectly reasonable and legitimate uses.... and the possibility of abuse.


If someone starts asking how to simultaneously detonate 32 exploding bridgewire detonators. or something that can hardly be seen as anything but bomb timer or guidance system for a missile, then we're moving into the illegal area, and "appropriate action" should be taken.

But as long as it is legal, let us please be free of moralizing and "you might have fun doing that, but because I do not understand it/ like it/ my religion tells me otherwise, you should not be allowed to do it!"

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Just note that "what is legal" differs quite a lot per country.
In the Netherlands we have very restrictive laws wrt owning guns. Even for police officers (esp when off duty). Still people got killed by guns here but statistically less per captiva.

Check - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate - and press the sort triangle besides total.

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Just note that "what is legal" differs quite a lot per country.
In the Netherlands we have very restrictive laws wrt owning guns. Even for police officers (esp when off duty). Still people got killed by guns here but statistically less per captiva.

Check - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate - and press the sort triangle besides total.



Not taking sides of gun control one way or another, but using overall a gross statistic like this and trying to gain insight can be misleading. Because guns are pretty easy to obtain (and legal in most cases) in some countries it is a popular choice for suicide which tends to skew the inference many try to make for a over all statistic like deaths per 100,000 in my opinion. Two-thirds of all gun-related deaths in the United States are suicides. Take suicides away and see what the relative country rankings are might be more accurate for trying to compare countries.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
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Just note that "what is legal" differs quite a lot per country.
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Exactly!
Which is why it is very important not to try to press whatever moral/legal or religious views one may have, into places where they do not apply.

I think it is fine to make a clear stand in a discussion.
The problem comes, when the nest step is taken, considering that to be a valid argument for restricting what others do or discuss.
Some laws are quite global, others (Gott sei Dank!) only apply in a few countries.... and I'm willing to fight (with any legal means at my disposal) that they will not apply to my country.

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but using overall a gross statistic like this and trying to gain insight can be misleading
Yes lefty it is, which is exactly what you did. So forget suicide, remove it from the statistics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
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The incidence of homicides committed with a firearm in the US is much greater than some other advanced countries. In the United States in 2009 United Nations statistics record 3.0 intentional homicides committed with a firearm per 100,000 inhabitants; for comparison, the figure for the United Kingdom, with where handguns are prohibited was 0.07 per 100,000, about 40 times lower, and for Germany 0.2.[51] Gun Homicides in Switzerland however are similarly low, at 0.52 in 2010[52] even though they rank third in the world for highest number of guns per citizen.[52]
The Swiss example is misleading because there law requires people to have a gun and they have to practice using it

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Which is why it is very important not to try to press whatever moral/legal or religious views
Just what has religion got to do with this discussion? A lot of you mention it and it is just not relevant here.
However, some people are defining guns with all the religious fervor of the religious nutcases.
Since when has moral got anything to do with legal?
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If I were a moderator, I`d simply close this topic.

This discussion, specially this kind of futile morality, simply doesn't apply to a technology forum.

I suggest the OP try to take his speech to other forums like GlockTalk.com and the several 1911 forums (I am a long time member of GlockTalk.com and of 1911talk.com)
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If I were a moderator, I`d simply close this topic.
I might be tempted to move it to Bar Sport, but personally, I have no interest in stopping it.
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This discussion, specially this kind of futile morality, simply doesn't apply to a technology forum.
I think the point here under discussion is that it does, for the very reason that people are asking questions about gun related projects.

Some people want to ban those sorts of questions, some are neutral, some want to answer those questions others do not. It seems a legitimate subject for discussion unless you are against free speech, which is an argument for allowing these questions to be asked.   
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