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femur

Hello, i was wondering if anyone has experience of sensing stray voltage currents on farms with an Arduino,

Regards,

Femur

CrossRoads

Stray voltage currents originating from what?
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AmbiLobe

" i was wondering if anyone has experience of sensing stray voltage "

I measured an extension cord that was not plugged in. It had a voltage on a wire. Many volts AC were observed with a multimeter. It must be inductive coupling from nearby magnetic fields. Floating wires get stray voltages, low current.
I am going to get going.

Jack Christensen

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Sep 27, 2013, 01:55 pm Last Edit: Sep 27, 2013, 02:04 pm by Jack Christensen Reason: 1

Stray voltage currents originating from what?


Usually from power transmission. Not an uncommon phenomenon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stray_voltage

Edit: Some general guidelines here: http://www.wisconsinpublicservice.com/business/farm_voltage_measuring.aspx

An Arduino should be able to take the place of the multimeter used to make measurements. Some additional input circuitry may well be required depending on the voltage level. Sounds like a good application for some data logging as well since a 24-48 hour measurement is preferred.
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femur

CrossRoads: Like they said, from power transmission. Mainly on the bailing and floors where cows are milked


MarkT


Hello, i was wondering if anyone has experience of sensing stray voltage currents on farms with an Arduino,

Regards,

Femur


Why do you want to sense this?   And do you want to sense voltage or current?  Do
you want a device that will survive a thunderstorm (because once you start connecting
sensors to long cable runs in the outdoors you are asking for them to be zapped)?
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femur

MarkT, i want to sense this because it is a major source of discomfort for the cattle, really upsets them making the life of the people working with them more difficult as a direct result.

http://milkquality.wisc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/short-duration-electrical-currents.pdf

I do want to sense voltage, the arduino is used just as a portable tester, no need to leave it on place


CrossRoads

Hmm, I don't know about sensing it.
Have you taken any steps to add grounding wires to short any stray voltages to ground?
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MarkT

Yes, the obvious issue is metal equipment that is not adequately (locally) grounded.

The cause of the voltage could be various things, but a faulty mains earthing system
is one possibility that is life-threatening so get an electrician to check that first.

Humans typically live in a dry environment and wear shoes/boots, so we wouldn't
notice a few volts between local ground and mains earth wire.

You want to eliminate the issue, not just measure it?  A multimeter on AC-volts
can measure it if you ground one probe, that's easy.

You need an closeby earthing spike driven into the ground (keep it watered in dry weather),
connect external metalwork and metal water pipes to the spikes (lookup local wiring
regulations or talk to an electrician first though).

Also avoid any equipment that isn't properly earthed.  In a harsh environment
regular electrical safety checks are obviously necessary...
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jremington

I completely agree about the possible dangers associated with faulty mains grounds, once having gotten a serious shock when making a connection between two different ground wires at a water well. The problem was due to faulty ground wiring at the pole where the "service drop" comes into the house -- which in our vicinity is the responsibility of the power company. Have your wiring checked by a professional!

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