The AVRISP MkII is expensive as all hell (like 70 bucks
Atmel Studio 5 was about 2.6GB of code (for windows.) (I should try that again with 6.1...)
Just thought I'd time AS load, over 2 minutes
I thought "Flip" was mostly for talking to bootloaders? (thus the variety of communications channels...)
This was my first experience with microcontrollers, for some labs in a realtime systems course at university
Yes, there is very much "assumed knowledge" required in the traditional paths to microcontroller development. Arduino assumes less (and successfully so, unlike many "easier to use" IDEs that STILL have a big knowledge cliff), which is why is succeeds (IMO.)QuoteThis was my first experience with microcontrollers, for some labs in a realtime systems course at universityAh. So your actual "experience" with microcontrollers is rather less than than the content of those experiences would suggest. You had one (university-provided) recipe for doing development, and are unhappy that the arduino "recipe" is so different (and that it's so expensive to duplicate the university environment.) This is pretty common (and to be honest, a lot of "professionals" go to work somewhere that provides an official "recipe", so they never learn the details, either.)But if you want to program Arduino hardware using a non-Arduino IDE, and a non-Arduino device programming method, you WILL need to either find someone who has done it already (and documented it well enough for you to follow), OR figure out all the nasty little details yourself (like the differences between device programming, In-system programming, self-programming, bootloading, device programming protocols, programmer communications protocols, bootloader communications protocols, Atmel-studio supported programmers vs 'external extensions', Programming vs debugging, and so on. A Lot Of Stuff.)
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