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"If your computer speaks English, it was probably made in China".

How about you, read any good ones lately or have some 'golden oldies" ?

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Or even just on your PC,  to shut down  click on start !
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That makes sense, you are starting the shutdown process smiley


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That makes sense, you are starting the shutdown process smiley


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Yes but how many people other than programmers think like that. It is one of the prime examples of why Microsoft got it wrong.
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That makes sense, you are starting the shutdown process smiley


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Yes but how many people other than programmers think like that. It is one of the prime examples of why Microsoft got it wrong.

This is in contrast to the Windows 8 method for shutting down a PC, which makes sense to no one at all. You just hover the mouse over of the right hand side of the screen for a few seconds with no visual queue, then right click (which slides a menu onto the screen), then click "settings", then click shutdown. That doesn't actually shut down the computer though, it just puts it into standby mode. If you want it to actually shut down, you have to hold shift while you click shutdown.

I've been building PCs for over 15 years, and I had to look at a manual to figure out how to turn off my mom's new Windows 8 PC.
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The mind boggles about  what they are thinking at Microsoft. 


  KICS   ( keep it complicated stupid )  ?
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One day they'll get it right...or maybe not.

My personal maxim is MIRC, Make It Really Complicated. Works for me smiley

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Desktop PC "click start to shut down"
OP clicks start
PC "are you really sure that you want to shut down?"
OP clicks YES
PC "you have shut down all your apps? Your not going to rely on me shutting them all down properly."
OP clicks YES, click click...
PC "you have done your weekly backups? Virus Checker, System Tuner...."
OP clicks Yes, click, click, click, click
PC "ok ok don't get your underwear in knots, I'm only making sure..
OP clicks YES click
PC "you see if I don't do  this shutdown properly, you will blame me, and I am only trying to safely and efficiently close you system down, Dave"
OP (Dave???) clicks all over the screen.
PC  "I find that if I do not do a satisfactory assignment that you get very upset with me.."
OP ctrl-alt-del
PC "sorry Dave I can't let you do that, you will jepeardise the mission I have been given to look after the welfare of the system and shut it down safely and efficiently."
OP getsd out of seat and moves to back of PC
PC "what are you doing Dave, don't pull the main power plug Dave, it will only cause an unauthorised shutdown, I cannot guarantee the outc..........................................."
OP plugs computer back in after 5mins, turns ON.
PC  blue screen, sound from speakers, "daisy daisy give me answer do, I'm half crazy all for the love of  you."
OP sighs in relief, "now where did I hide that restore disk, or where did I put the unbunto CD...."

Tom... smiley
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I too couldn't shut down my win8 PC without asking how.

I think it's because it's designed for devices that you never actually shut down, like tablets and laptops.  I rarely bother shutting my laptop down, I just close the lid and it goes to sleep.
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I just like to shut mine down every now and then to clear all its temporary files that I know about, and probably more cache and files I have never heard of.

It works with me when I can get a good sleep every now and then :-)
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This is in contrast to the Windows 8 method for shutting down a PC, which makes sense to no one at all. You just hover the mouse over of the right hand side of the screen for a few seconds with no visual queue, then right click (which slides a menu onto the screen), then click "settings", then click shutdown. That doesn't actually shut down the computer though, it just puts it into standby mode. If you want it to actually shut down, you have to hold shift while you click shutdown.

I've been building PCs for over 15 years, and I had to look at a manual to figure out how to turn off my mom's new Windows 8 PC.
Learned something new today.

You have my sympathy/understanding and forgivness on RTFM for the shutdown sequence. smiley
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It was bad enough that every new version of Windows played musical chairs with the control panel icons.  Windows 8 just nailed the coffin for me.  I use Linux at work (preference anyway) and am trying out a Hackintosh as my main home PC.

The whole bit about "it's supposed to train you not to use shutdown" sounds very plausible to me, but as a long-term user of Windows, I don't hold much faith in its ability to remain running indefinitely without there being a performance penalty.  Windows 7 has made strides (I have a laptop that I always hibernate instead of shutdown) but at my last job, where I had a Windows 7 PC and a Linux PC running together side-by-side, I would reboot Linux for hardware / kernel changes and power outages.  I would reboot Windows between once a month and once a season.  Not bad, but not quite appliance-like.

Aside from the technical shortcomings, you can't just flip the paradigm on an entire industry and expect everyone to be OK with it.  People are creatures of habit, and most of them don't consider it fun and amusing to learn new OSes, any more than a carpenter would like to try out a new concept for The Hammer every four years.
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try out a new concept for The Hammer every four years.

Well said !

I thought of a TV sketch where passengers taking their seats on a new Airbus 980, or Boeing Ogasmiliner, or whatever, hear the familiar tune ( for us XP types anyway ) of Windows booting up, and all rush for the escape doors.
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It was bad enough that every new version of Windows played musical chairs with the control panel icons.  Windows 8 just nailed the coffin for me.  I use Linux at work (preference anyway) and am trying out a Hackintosh as my main home PC.

The whole bit about "it's supposed to train you not to use shutdown" sounds very plausible to me, but as a long-term user of Windows, I don't hold much faith in its ability to remain running indefinitely without there being a performance penalty.  Windows 7 has made strides (I have a laptop that I always hibernate instead of shutdown) but at my last job, where I had a Windows 7 PC and a Linux PC running together side-by-side, I would reboot Linux for hardware / kernel changes and power outages.  I would reboot Windows between once a month and once a season.  Not bad, but not quite appliance-like.

Aside from the technical shortcomings, you can't just flip the paradigm on an entire industry and expect everyone to be OK with it.  People are creatures of habit, and most of them don't consider it fun and amusing to learn new OSes, any more than a carpenter would like to try out a new concept for The Hammer every four years.

Exactly. I have a Linux (CentOS) server colocated in a datacenter. It always amazes my windows server-trained friends when I log into webmin and they see "Uptime: 440 Days".
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