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lilpunk1302

Meh, I actually use a RadioShack soldering iron.

Guess that means that my e-Penis > your e-Penis. :P

But seriously.

Not sure how I got into the whole electronics thing, but one day I went to Radio shack with daddy and got a 20 pack of LED's, a piece of Perfboard, a $10 soldering iron and some solder.

I guess I've just never used a proper soldering iron before(Lies, I made ONE connection with a high suality soldering station last summer at my uncles, but it was "In air" so it no count.)

So the fact that my soldering iron is 'shitty' doesn't phase me.


Either way, I couldn't afford a better one right now if I wanted to, we're in the middle of "moving"(More like living at friends places, did I mention all our furniture?)
I have Zero dollars(Well, lie, I have 10, but that's gonna be spent on a breadboard) and no hope of a job till at least the new school year.

Suggestions on models? Something in the <$50 range

Oracle

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In my experience, with a cheap (usually chrome plated tip) iron like they sell at radio shack, the solder tends to stick to the iron, beading on the tip, and will not properly flow into the joint.  Anything that makes it onto the joint is overflow from the tip.  Heating the joint and applying solder directly to it as you're supposed to just don't work because the heat doesn't flow right.  Also, with an unregulated iron, either you don't have enough power, or the iron runs too hot so you lift off solder pads or risk damaging components.

You should spend a few hours with a decent iron, it makes such a huge difference, it really is night and day.

I've heard good things about the Weller WLC100 for a low budget, but I've never tried it and the tips aren't as good as a higher end iron.  It's $36 at Amazon.com.  Personally, I use the WES51 which is an absolute pleasure to use, very comfortable, heats fast, and solder behaves nicely with it, it's $88 at Amazon.  There's also the WESD51 which is identical but has a digital display of the current tip temperature.  There's also the WTCPT which is very nice, I used to use one, it regulates the temperature with a magnetic principle so it's mainly a preference between that and the WES51.  The pencil is a lot thicker for the WTCPT, which is also a matter of preference.

lilpunk1302

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In my experience, with a cheap (usually chrome plated tip) iron like they sell at radio shack, the solder tends to stick to the iron, beading on the tip, and will not properly flow into the joint.  Anything that makes it onto the joint is overflow from the tip.  Heating the joint and applying solder directly to it as you're supposed to just don't work because the heat doesn't flow right.  Also, with an unregulated iron, either you don't have enough power, or the iron runs too hot so you lift off solder pads or risk damaging components.


That's about how it works for me XD

But my tip isn't chrome plated anymore, I decided to sand it off with some nice 220 sandpaper XD

In other news, I was actually looking at something along the lines of a WESD51.

Does the screen make much of a difference? Should I just go for the analog one, or save up for digital?

Daniel2

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Jun 14, 2008, 11:52 pm Last Edit: Jun 14, 2008, 11:55 pm by Daniel2 Reason: 1
I have the WESD51- it means you have a very stable temp-controlled soldering setup at the flick of a switch. Worth the money if you are doing a lot of soldering. It has a cool function that's not really advertised: if the tip temperature is stable for a half hour it turns off. During normal soldering the tip temp would vary five or ten degrees when you touch the cold part with a hot iron, so it watches this value as an indication of inactivity and shuts off if there's no activity. I was totally perplexed by this initially, as i would go for coffee and when I got back it would be off!

lilpunk1302

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I have the WESD51- it means you have a very stable temp-controlled soldering setup at the flick of a switch. Worth the money if you are doing a lot of soldering. It has a cool function that's not really advertised: if the tip temperature is stable for a half hour it turns off. During normal soldering the tip temp would vary five or ten degrees when you touch the cold part with a hot iron, so it watches this value as an indication of inactivity and shuts off if there's no activity. I was totally perplexed by this initially, as i would go for coffee and when I got back it would be off!


Lololol, Looks like that's where I'm savin up for.

Only problem is that my local store sells it for $179, Digikey is 159, not sure about Mouser, but the shipping is $15 :/

And I can't use amazon, no credit card, and 'rents won't let me use theirs(Mom says right after I hit "Submit" online to 3 Cirque du Soleil tix XD) And Amazon don't ship to Canada anyways.

Oracle

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Lololol, Looks like that's where I'm savin up for.

Only problem is that my local store sells it for $179, Digikey is 159, not sure about Mouser, but the shipping is $15 :/

And I can't use amazon, no credit card, and 'rents won't let me use theirs(Mom says right after I hit "Submit" online to 3 Cirque du Soleil tix XD) And Amazon don't ship to Canada anyways.


Amazon.com does ship to Canada, I order from them all the time.  Their free shipping just doesn't apply.

The WES51 also has the auto-shutoff feature.  It's exactly the same iron except for the missing display.  Personally I didn't see the display as being worth an extra 50% on the entire, because if you're off 20 degrees it's not going to hurt imo.  I won't disagree with someone who says the readout is important though.

If you do any non-trivial amount of soldering, a proper iron is the best investment you can make for your tool dollars.

Also, never sand the tip on a good iron, it should never need it and if it did for some reason, the tip is a complex layering of different metals like a copper core for heat flow, a nickel outer layer, etc.  Tips do need replacing from time to time though, they're about $5 for these irons.

lilpunk1302

Yeah, I know about not sanding tips, sat there wondering if I should for like 5 minutes before doing it XD

As far as Amazon, yes, they do ship to Canada, but any of the cool stuff I've seen/needed before they couldn't ship. So now I just generalize: Amazon doesn't ship to Canada.

Kay, well I tried making it give me a price by Adding to cart and checking out.
It refuses without to give me a price without specifying payment methods.

So how much would it cost to get it shipped to Vancouver?

Daniel2

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Jun 16, 2008, 06:42 am Last Edit: Jun 16, 2008, 06:46 am by Daniel2 Reason: 1
@lilpunk, I'm in Canada too. I got mine on sale at Active Components, aka "active stores." look on their front page, the non-digital version is about $120, the digital version $159. The Vancouver store is at Boundary and 1st, and they have the full Weller line. There's a good place called MRO electronics across the street too, and Pacific Coast electronics is up the hill.  Lee's electronics at Main/24th will sell you a knock-off version for under $50. Main Electronics, next to Lee's, has the Weller line for more money than Active Stores.

http://www.active-tech.ca/b2c/redirect.cfm?pn=2

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lilpunk1302

I mostly go to RP Electronics, block away from Brentwood skytrain.

But yeah, I'll look into checking those out in the near future, thanks.

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