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« on: December 26, 2010, 05:03:52 pm » |
Today, I plugged it into a 6v wall wart which actually puts out 10v and it started working correctly. within 5 seconds all the lights came on steady and it quit working. The computer will not recognize it and it does not work on USB. I think the regulator might have shorted and took out the chips :'( What do I do now? The output was not shorted because I was just using the internal pin 13 LED.
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« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2010, 07:34:26 pm » |
That doesn't sound good. I would suspect that power supply is faulty and putting out nasty high voltage spikes.
It might be something else of course - perhaps a bad/intermittent connection on the power causing the chip to crash - test it on a known safe regulated supply (try a 5V one to the 5V pin?)
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« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2010, 08:27:47 pm » |
The FTDI chip is shot. The power supply is tested known good with no spikes on a scope.
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« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2010, 08:59:16 pm » |
Will your board run from 3 AA batteries connected to the Vcc pin?
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« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2010, 09:14:33 pm » |
The FTDI chip is shot. How have you determined that? There is away to test the FTDI indepently from the processor chip if you are interested. Lefty
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« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2010, 09:17:18 pm » |
It will not run from batteries right to the 5v pin. I know the chip is shot because the computer no longer reads it as a USB-to-Serial converter.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2010, 04:36:55 pm » |
Should I order all the chips and start practicing surface mount soldering?
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2010, 05:11:06 pm » |
Another option is remove the FTDI chip, add some wires to a 6 pin male header so you can connect an external FTDI programming adapter. I believe all the pins you need to connect are accessible at the bottom of the female headers.
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2010, 05:41:26 pm » |
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2010, 09:11:12 pm » |
0.05" spacing is not too bad after 0.1" spacing of dip parts. 0.025" - now that gets difficult! 4 pins in the space of 2. Can probably get it off without much problem, small clippers to cut the leads and then unsolder what is left. Going back on, different story. Need some solder flux & small diameter solder - we bought a roll of 0.025", same as the pin spacing! Didn't have solderflux at the time, after seeing the videos I think we're gonna get some before we try that again.
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« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2010, 03:28:35 am » |
One more question. What is the IC other then the USB interface and microcontroller?
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2010, 11:05:34 am » |
Which arduino do you have? I assumed you had a deumilanove as you indicated a bad FTDI chip. If so, I would hazard a guess that you are referring to the 8-pin LM358 comparator. Or the 3 pin MOSFET. Or the 3 pin regulator. http://arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/arduino-duemilanove-schematic.pdf
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« Reply #12 on: December 29, 2010, 05:33:01 pm » |
my ftdi died seemingly without a reason too. exchanging the chip worked. If you want to do this get a liquid flux pen. smd is not that hard if you got one!
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« Reply #13 on: December 29, 2010, 07:13:03 pm » |
Do you think the LM358 survived the +5 being raised to +10? I am going to order a new regulator, FTDI and atmega. and basically rechip the board. I will try to get a liquid flux pen.
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2010, 08:59:06 pm » |
LM358 http://www.datasheetcatalog.com/datasheets_pdf/L/M/3/5/LM358.shtmlAll the datasheets I looked at showed it having a power supply range of at least +/-16V. On my duemi. it is an ST brand LM358, single power supply, good to 32V.
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