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Question: How do you say solder?
Sold-der (UK) - 37 (46.3%)
Saw-der (USA) - 43 (53.8%)
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Maybe we should ask the Colonel?
The Colonel usually just delegates it to the left tenant.
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Here in the netherlands we pronounce it "Sol Deer" or just "tin"
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Gee, I don't know . . . “talk,” “walk,” “half,”, “calf”
Maybe we should ask the Colonel?

Just because there are a few examples of silent "L" doesn't mean ALL of them are... :-)

Also I would pronounce the L to some extent in all of those words... they certainly don't sound the same as if the L wasn't there at all, which is the case with the solder/sodder argument.

I put my soldering iron in it's hoLder, not it's hodder.

Anyways I'm happy for everyone to pronounce it however they want, just interested in how the L became silent
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Sold-er. How else would you pronounce "Sold" ?!
<Condemned wanders off to have a nice cup of tea>

Are the syllables in English separated like that? In German you would separate them like "sol- der", like in "sol- dat" (german word for soldier).
Perhaps from an linguistic kind of view there once was an "ou" like in "boulder" or "shoulder"?
Someone who knows around here?
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saw-der, no L's round here. Someone who was completely removed from the field of electronics would still attempt to read it as written and say sold-er.
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Just because there are a few examples of silent "L" doesn't mean ALL of them are...
I coudn't - I mean, I couldn't agree with you more.  smiley

Here's a nice little article about the silent "L" that mentions solder  specifically, and the history behind how the "L" became silent (for some).
http://verbmall.blogspot.com/2006/05/silent-letters.html

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sorta partway between sod-er and saw-der, but never with a long O.
Interesting national difference...
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Are the syllables in English separated like that?
No. My intent on splitting it "Sold-er" was to split into a very common word, "Sold", which (as far as I know) is never mispronounced.
Stumbling across a few audio clips was quite alarming. I'm quite happy to wield a 'soldering iron', but I'd never want to go near a 'sod-ering iron'  :o

See this wiki page. The word 'sod' is commonly used in the UK, and (as far as I'm aware) the etymology is well known.



<Condemned now shuffles off again, stage left, for his nice cup of hot cocoa>
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Here's a nice little article about the silent "L" that mentions solder  specifically, and the history behind how the "L" became silent (for some).
http://verbmall.blogspot.com/2006/05/silent-letters.html

Thanks for the link.  But the very first sentence starts off
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Q. Why is the letter -L- silent in words such as salmon and solder?

I pronounce the L in salmon smiley
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I say it like sauter. smiley-razz
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the same way sodomize is pronounced for me... sawdomize... sawder
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lol, sodomize.

nice choice of words.
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Well... for a while I never knew so I would just mumble it quickly. Now I say sodher ;-)
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Heres a poll to settle the issue
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Heres a poll to settle the issue

Where's the "Other" option?

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