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Caghot

Hello there.

Last week finally got my Arduino board and after few succesfully projects i started to search information of little complicated projects.
So one thing in my mind is Atmega 328 chip standalone after programming it with Arduino board.

Eg. if i make a room temperature measurement with LCD display and i don´t want to use Arduino board in it, how can i setup system like this?
All programming would happen so that i remove the chip from measurement board and attach it to Arduino board.
After programming i swap the chip back to measurement board.
So can i just attach the chip to board after installation, connect Vcc, Gnd and Vref pins and then it is ready to read analog or digital values from programmed pins?
So i don´t need any programming options for that standalone installation.

Tried to search answers over the web but there were allways mentioned resonators, led´s, capasitors etc.

Thanks.

cyberteque

Hi!
I know what you mean!
I just built 2 of these, I'll be building another 12 as soon as the parts arrive, I've added a few bits of my own and call it the "Barnduino"!
http://thetransistor.com/projects/arduino/
That's coz It'll be living in a turkey barn, monitoring water flow sensors.

The circuit diagram pdf is here
http://thetransistor.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Minimalist-Arduino-Rev01-Schematic.pdf

You'll need to get an FTDI cable to program them, but if you are serious about Arduino you'll need 1 or 2 eventually.

Hope that helps!

johndimo

You'll need more hooked up than just power and ground wires. A 16mhz crystal with 18-22pf capacitors (the actual size of the capacitors you'll need depends on the crystal you get) or a 16mhz resonator, which has the capacitors built in. Resonators sacrifice accuracy in the name of having a smaller size and require fewer components. You'll also need a 10k pullup resistor on the reset pin as well.

Here's a link that will show you the minimum components to get the chip going. After that, attach your other circuits to the pins you were using and you're good to go.
http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Standalone
http://www.johndimo.com

Tyler M

Look at the bottom of this page. It shows you how to do what you're asking.
http://arduino.cc/en/Tutorial/ArduinoToBreadboard

NI$HANT

Its very easy you just need:
1) A single 16 MHz Crystal oscillator (Note i had really bad experience using the internal Oscillator @ 8MHz )
2) 2, 22pf CAP's and, Finally
3) 1 > 10K Ohm resistor.

Connect the VCC and GND at the both sides of your ATmega 328 (the other side is the AVCC and GND connect them same as the VCC and GnD) and,

Connect the 10 K ohm resistor with the 1st pin i.e. the reset pin and,

connect the Crystal with the 9 and 10 number pins of the ATmega328 directly and from the crystal pins connect the  2, 22 pf caps(1 crystal pin 1 cap) and let the caps pins go in the ground and HERE YOU'RE On! with your own ATmega328 Standalone

IT's Definitely going to work

POWER>> power the circuit from a 3.3v or 5v DC source.

NOTE: you can use the same method with the ATmega168 and ATmega8
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pluggy

I'd use the Modern Devices RBBB as the minimal practical circuit for a Standalone 168/328.

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0038/9582/files/RBBB_Instructions_06.pdf?1260749296

I'm with NishantPosted, running at 8Mhz on the internal oscillator isn't worth the grief.  Since the new boards (Uno etc) use resonators it seems to lend credence to this slightly simpler & cheaper solution.  The crystal is more accurate but a resonator is good to a few seconds a day. 

http://pluggy.is-a-geek.com/index.html

liudr

I always suggest this tutorial:
http://itp.nyu.edu/physcomp/Tutorials/ArduinoBreadboard

I've made my standalone with this tutorial:
http://liudr.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/make-an-enclosure-or-face-plate-for-your-arduino-projects/

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Caghot

Hi and thanks to everybody for the great answers.
I got the point and i really looks simple to make a standalone system, even it requires few components but still.

While waiting my LCD shield i could build up few boards and program controllers ready for the action.

Maybe i´ll have to bother you again when i start to program that LCD shield..  :smiley-yell:

But i´m really happy that somebody has made this Arduino system.
I was very interested to learn PIC programming but all that stuff with programming languages etc. got me really confused and with Arduino it seems to be quite similar with javascript, which basics i learned in school about year a go.
That really lowered my step to choose Arduino and start to play with that.

liudr

I love arduino too, although I also miss the time when I push CX; or rep movsd; Programming in assembly has its special charms. I am just glad I didn't have to mess with low-level programming on a daily basis when I use arduino.

Regarding the LCD shield, you mean the Phi-1 shield I made? I'm happy to help.

Graynomad

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Feel free to drop into some inline assembler liudr :)

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DCContrarian

For four bucks you can get this "runtime board":
http://www.nkcelectronics.com/arduino-runtime-board-rev-b.html

CrossRoads

Yes, that would be good for ATMega168s, tho it looks like 328s in DIP package are a little scarce at the moment.
The smaller memory size probably not an issue for many, many projects.
Designing & building electrical circuits for over 25 years.  Screw Shield for Mega/Due/Uno,  Bobuino with ATMega1284P, & other '328P & '1284P creations & offerings at  my website.

liudr

For $2.4 you get RBBB (buy 5 together for $2.4 each)  :smiley-eek: :D

hfoster

If I want to program an Atmega 328 that already has a bootloader to use on a breadboard or standalone device, but do not want to swap chips on and off my Arduino, what are my options? I suspect I need some kind of FTDI device, but I'm not sure of exactly what I need.

I've read several different tutorials and have scoured websites that sell FTDI device, but haven't found a simple explanation.

CrossRoads

Plop your bootloaded part on a breadboard with 16MHx xtal, two 22pf caps, 10K reset pullup resistor.
Get an FTDI Basic (or equivalent), wire up the Atmega Vcc, Gnd, Rx, Tx, and Reset to the FTDI Vcc, Gnd, Tx, Rx and DTR pins.
Tell the IDE you have a 16 MHz 5V Duemilanova, should be ready to go!
I think there are playground examples that discuss just this.
There are other options as well - such as using the FTDI on your existing Arduino to do the same (if so equipped).
Designing & building electrical circuits for over 25 years.  Screw Shield for Mega/Due/Uno,  Bobuino with ATMega1284P, & other '328P & '1284P creations & offerings at  my website.

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