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Topic: Whats with the anti-arduino sentiment? (Read 3 times) previous topic - next topic

bilbo

While I don't consider myself an arduino 'expert', I've done a good deal of projects with it and other microcontrollers, and with plenty of other circuits over the past several years, so I dont consider myself a newb any more either. However, this hackaday article kind of bothered me http://hackaday.com/2011/02/11/how-the-arduino-won-this-is-how-we-can-kill-it/ . So what if its overkill for some people's projects? For beginners, its easy! I think of it as a gateway into the incredible world of more powerful electronics. It seems to me like sometimes, old-school EEs and other true get a little upset that the masses are coming into embedded electronics. Whats wrong with that?! Imagine a time when one day, if someone needs something done, they just take out their arduino and build it themselves.

That said, a part of me cringes whenever i read a topic titled "NEWBIE PROBLEM PLZ HELP". Again, not that theres anything wrong with newbies or questions, but i'd say 90% of these questions can be answered with 5 minutes of googling, and the "NEWBIE" will learn something on the way. I think that the anger and the agitation comes when people come to the forum with no experience and a simple problem, and expect a god member to write them a personalized tutorial. If people would just read, and then google a little more, I think the arduino forums, and the embedded world would be a better place.

Thoughts? Opinions? Furious rants? All welcome.

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DCContrarian


That said, a part of me cringes whenever i read a topic titled "NEWBIE PROBLEM PLZ HELP". Again, not that theres anything wrong with newbies or questions, but i'd say 90% of these questions can be answered with 5 minutes of googling, and the "NEWBIE" will learn something on the way.


And the other 10% read something like: "I need to build an arduino machine to do my homework. I want it to read the questions off a sheet of paper and control a pencil to write the answers. I already have the pencil. I need to know which arduino to buy and what other parts I need and how to program it. Please hurry because my homework is due in the morning."

To your original question, there is always resentment among people who spent time learning a skill when a technology comes along that allows people without that skill to do the same kind of work.  Until about 1940 it was illegal in the US to play recorded music over the radio!

Chuckz


It seems to me like sometimes, old-school EEs and other true get a little upset that the masses are coming into embedded electronics. Whats wrong with that?! Imagine a time when one day, if someone needs something done, they just take out their arduino and build it themselves.


I think it is great that electronics has come to the masses.

I don't think there are enough beginner articles on how to get started.

I think some of them are mad that Arduino users aren't reading 300 page manuals every night like they are.

doublet


I think some of them are mad that Arduino users aren't reading 300 page manuals every night like they are.

Well, I actually had read the full ASK manual even before buying my Arduino.
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Inprogress

I think the resentment is somewhat the same as what I have when I look at my salary (when I still worked as one) being an Industrial Engineering Technician who spent a ton of money learning a ton of stuff, only to see the just out of school girl work as a PA at a higher salary. Same kind of resentment which is based on nothing more than being angry at the situation as it was when you went through it. Now anyone can basically learn anything either free or very very cheaply and make a good living out of it without the need of a big university piece of paper. Just about.

As for the noob noob noob questions, well that comes from our society that insists of instant gratification. We don't care about the journey anymore, its only about the destination. We are living in the consumer world where if it breaks you throw out (without thinking about the environmental implications) and just buy new...case in point the awesome benefits of e-readers. They are great pieces of equipment that will kill the paperback book because its just better...unfortunately with our society being consumers, they will create more problems and solve them cause people don't buy new products cause they break, they buy new one's cause the current one just isn't keeping up with the Jones'es. Like cars, the Emission Standards is the best thing that ever happened to the auto industry....millions and million of extra waste created...go do the math.

STOP STOP STOP....its Friday and I'm starting to rant. Have a great weekend!

Hurry up Mr Postman, I want to start playing with microcontrollers  XD
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