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liuzengqiang

I thought that UPS drivers are unionized, so that workplace safety issues like overheating should usually be handled by unions, however, this UPS driver's nurse wife is asking random online strangers to sign her petition to demand air conditioning on delivery trucks, saying the truck gets 180 degrees in hot summers!

I'm not an active member at change.org but they keep sending these petitions for me to sign. If this service is anything that replaces the army of grunts with clipboards, I miss the interactions. There is no place you can comment on the petition if you don't wish to sign. Must feel good to have 10K signatures while not knowing how many people are against you!

Do trucks really get 180 degrees hot? Maybe some actual UPS drivers or friends that know arduino can rig up a very simple data logger to corroborate the hi-temp claim in places that are very hot, like those concerned with hot car child death. Some real data would be nice.
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ardly

I guess that is 180°F.


The hotest recorded weather temperature is around 130°F
Our cells start to die at around 110°F though we can survive much higher temperatures (a lot depends on wind/humidity).


It would not surprise me if a truck cab could reach 180°F with the windows closed in strong sun, but nobody is going to be sitting in it because that is literally oven hot.
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley

Henry_Best

My UPS doesn't need drivers. It works, straight out the box, to protect my computers from power-outs. 
Although it gets warm, it doesn't get anywhere near 180o F.  :) :)


Qdeathstar

You would think acs in the truck would be better for UPS in terms of productivity, i wonder how much it adds to the cost of the truck per unit.... I'm guessing less than 500, not including maintenance costs..

A creaking creeping shadow
stiff against the freezing fog
glares at a tickless watch.

Time has failed him -- all things shall pass.

liuzengqiang

You would think acs in the truck would be better for UPS in terms of productivity, i wonder how much it adds to the cost of the truck per unit.... I'm guessing less than 500, not including maintenance costs..


I think that UPS is trying to save gas by telling its drivers to drive a certain way (or is that FeDex?). I don't know how they control productivity. Are they monitoring gasoline usage? My opinion is that if the drivers really want AC, they're gonna need more than one driver's petition to get AC. I also wonder how trucks in other delivery services are equiped.
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Paul_KD7HB

IF the sun is shining, the UPS drivers have both doors open in the cab. They also wear short legged pants most of the year.

Paul

ChrisTenone

... They also wear short legged pants most of the year.

Paul
The easier to fry them!
Atmosphere carries combustion vapors to places where they will do good instead of harm - Mike Faraday's 'History of a Candle': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W0MHZ4jb4A

Whoops ::)

TomGeorge

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Jul 19, 2018, 04:53 pm Last Edit: Jul 19, 2018, 04:53 pm by TomGeorge
I think that UPS is trying to save gas by telling its drivers to drive a certain way (or is that FeDex?). I don't know how they control productivity. Are they monitoring gasoline usage? My opinion is that if the drivers really want AC, they're gonna need more than one driver's petition to get AC. I also wonder how trucks in other delivery services are equiped.
https://www.quora.com/Do-UPS-or-Fed-Ex-delivery-vehicles-have-good-fuel-economy
UPS, cos I believe in the USA, you can do a right hand turn against a red traffic light.

In Australia that would be the equivalent of a left hand turn, not legal here unless there is a left turn green.

By trying to put more RHT into the route, they are not stopping and are actually running more smoothly.
Mythbusters tried the strategy and I think they found it had some advantages.

As for AirCon, if they had AC and were continually jumping out of a cool vehicle and into the heat then back into the cool, I'd say they would become very sick drivers.

Tom.... :)
Everything runs on smoke, let the smoke out, it stops running....

ChrisTenone

You still have to stop for a right on red. It's like a stop sign.
Atmosphere carries combustion vapors to places where they will do good instead of harm - Mike Faraday's 'History of a Candle': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W0MHZ4jb4A

Whoops ::)

ardly

You still have to stop for a right on red. It's like a stop sign.

Yes you have to halt then if its clear you can go through the light, but it does save fuel;
Virginia State Code
§ 46.2-835. Right turn on steady red light after stopping
, states...
"Notwithstanding the provisions of § 46.2-833, except where signs are placed prohibiting turns on steady red, vehicular traffic facing a steady red signal, after coming to a full stop, may cautiously enter the intersection and make a right turn.  
Such turning traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrianslawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to other traffic using the intersection."
"Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored" - Aldous Huxley

liuzengqiang

Tom, you make a very good point. The shock is going to be bad. I know people that get AC-sick from getting out of AC-rooms and it's real. Best would be to keep a cooler full of water and energy drinks, wet towels for head and face, and one over the back of the neck like porters working docks. It's hard work driving a delivery truck in the summer, even in the northern parts of US.
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ChrisTenone

Yes you have to halt then if its clear you can go through the light, but it does save fuel;
Virginia State Code
§ 46.2-835. Right turn on steady red light after stopping
, states...
"Notwithstanding the provisions of § 46.2-833, except where signs are placed prohibiting turns on steady red, vehicular traffic facing a steady red signal, after coming to a full stop, may cautiously enter the intersection and make a right turn. 
Such turning traffic shall yield the right-of-way to pedestrianslawfully within an adjacent crosswalk and to other traffic using the intersection."

Yeah, that's the way it is here too. When I first moved here, I was just learning about driving, and I thought the concept of 'going' on a red light was bizarre. Now it's natural. The entire US is right on red friendly.
Atmosphere carries combustion vapors to places where they will do good instead of harm - Mike Faraday's 'History of a Candle': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W0MHZ4jb4A

Whoops ::)

ChrisTenone

... a cooler full of water and energy drinks ...
Or maybe a bottle of Adderall.
Atmosphere carries combustion vapors to places where they will do good instead of harm - Mike Faraday's 'History of a Candle': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W0MHZ4jb4A

Whoops ::)

Qdeathstar

A creaking creeping shadow
stiff against the freezing fog
glares at a tickless watch.

Time has failed him -- all things shall pass.

GoForSmoke

Do trucks really get 180 degrees hot?
Somebody is yanking a chain rather HARD with that one. Tanks in the WWII African theatre battles didn't get that hot inside.

180F is overcooked for meat, I suspect that some TWAT saw that the engine coolant gets that hot and since the motor is INSIDE of the truck it's about an SJW thing to extend that to the whole truck.

I worked in a metal shop long ago where I'd be going from the AC cool engineering office out into the 105-110F summer shop heat back and forth for my shift and I can tell you that changing so much so often is very draining. It was easier to stay out in the shop than to duck back and forth.
Last I saw, the drivers do leave the trucks often without the benefit of a cool air tunnel all the way to delivery. Perhaps that will be demanded next, that's what these Social Petitions are about, getting a mob to make demands.


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