I think many of the ideas you guys are offering for "girl products" are still a tick too complex and techy. I think, if I would want to get a young girl started with electronics I would start without an arduino, but just getting her familiar with simple circuits. I think the perfect starting product would be lady ada's minty boost.http://www.ladyada.net/make/mintyboost/ If I where to design new gadgets for girls, I would start from there - analyze why this was succesfull and create something with similar proporties. We see here, the usefullness of this itam is very obvious and direct, while the complexety of the design is low and very basic. Also, the overall design is smart and appealing.p.
Look at the average - stereotype boy getting interested in electronics: Either they soaks it up from his environment where their parents / elder siblings play around with electronics or they fail to succeed at more popular topics like sports, so they choose a domain where the bullies won't go (because of the lack of status) or where they have a better chance at succeeding.And make things even worse, people working in electronics aren't in most cases really the glamorous type, they have a bigger chance of being the misfit-type or the introverted type. In short, there are many people who spend a lot of time with their gadgets to succeed, which is time not spent with other people. This reduces the attraction of electronics (and similar solitary subjects) even further.Now the big question: What does electronics offer to a girl? In most cases they already have easier areas to retreat to to get away or need it less.From what I've seen, initiatives not providing at least some answer to this question don't really achieve much.Korman
@liudrI think your reaction to fkeel might be a bit too fast, let me explain. I see two things: the message and the form of the message. The form is what "triggered" you, without paying enough attention to his message. The form is just the carrier of the message and I have learned (as requirements engineer) to look through that. It is the difference between HOW people say WHAT they mean. So lets just focus on the message.The message of fkeel is : "listen to the people you want to reach by looking at their context". Similar statements are made earlier in this thread an it means that (other recent post) if you want to reach girls in the age 12-15 you must understand about what in their context/mindset is important. Think everyone will agree on that as it is basic marketing - excuses for using the M word on a tech forum The discussion should focus on how to reach them (boys and girls). The answer comes also from marketing (did it again and the word is seduction. The (not allways educative) power of commercials. If you can get a "I want that too" feeling, people go far to reach their goal. Seduction is about showing end-results, called products, and their benefits. A technique I often used to gather requirements was the persona. - read the book: The Inmates Are Running the Asylum, Alan Cooper -. Basically you describe a fictive customer in as much detail as possible and that person is the archetype for your whole customergroup. We often used 2-6 in projects, archetype per role.<example persona>...
If you have a example to show them (with enough bling bling on it and painted pink it will work I guess .
Just $50 is enough for the kids education?
I wish to go to high schools to demonstrate to those kids what science and engineering is about and there are very interesting topics but to make an impression to girls around age 12-15 I need girl presenters. I was presenting at a women engineering on campus event for that age range girls but after almost a full day of presenting, only less than 10 showed up. The campus organizers didn't do their work and I consider it was wasting my time to present three sessions to an average of 3 girls each session for 1 hours each.Hell, I'm a guy. How should I blame them for only sending out registration forms to high schools? They should personally go the the high schools, show pictures of the past event and encourage more girls to come. You can't magically convert a bunch of girls from loving what society tells them to do as young girls into liking science-engineering subjects.
Basically you describe a fictive customer in as much detail as possible and that person is the archetype for your whole customergroup. We often used 2-6 in projects, archetype per role.<example persona>A minimal persona: archetype Girl, 13 year- Linda, has one older brother Jason...... [Got a picture?] How can we seduce Linda for technique? What would she like to have to make her live happier? Ok from the persona profile I can think of the following product concepts (that might include Arduino tech)- A detection system that shows that her sister Kate was in her room. Actually it shows if anyone was in her room. Better if someone is now in my room ! - RFID tags in make-up to end discussion about "that is my lipstick Kate", - A detection system that warns when Jason is around,- A handbag she will never forget,- A something thingy to share secret messages with her friends,- A diary that only she can open ("Mom, that stupid Kate got my diary!!!") - ...(think you allready have ideas how to make these)</example>
All interesting ideas here.Quotefemale -> lillypad -> Leds on clothingI personally think this is a poor idea that people seem to have.
female -> lillypad -> Leds on clothing
Girls of a young(ish) age (as said above) I can see being much more interested 'secret stuff', things that tell them something, hide something etc. As for specific projects, that's a hard one.I started this:http://collabedit.com/7cr9kFeel free to change stuff around - lets see what people come up with. Stick your name in top right.
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