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mowcius

#15
Jul 22, 2011, 07:56 pm Last Edit: Jul 22, 2011, 07:58 pm by mowcius Reason: 1
with or without capitals?

PM would have been just as easy to send... :P

Edit: done

Valalvax

not sure that capital letters matter in emails :P

Also, I didn't get it apparently....

* Valalvax PMs this time

mowcius

the capitals was kind of a joke - well I sent the invite again.
Check your spam box...

fkeel

#18
Jul 24, 2011, 06:44 am Last Edit: Jul 24, 2011, 06:46 am by fkeel Reason: 1
not sure where to post this...

but i find this is very disturbing:

I have a google nexus one phone with the google+ app installed. I use this mainly to check my e-mails and to take pictures. The pictures I take are either work related (in other words, I might get in trouble if they appeared on the internet) or personal (in other words, I probably do not want them on the internet, as I am very picky about which parts of my personal life I share.)

I have recieved several messages from google plus lately stating that: "Pictures have been added from instant upload" ... I never checked, becouse I am really busy at the moment, and was just not interested.

I checked today and I found that every single picture and video I had taken with my phone had been uploaded to google plus. Now the pictures where not publicly shared (I think) as I have to manually do this, but they are on some server, out of my control.

I can delete them (what does that even mean?).

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Now aside from that privacy issue there is also the issue of data transfer. My camera is set to maximum resolution, so the data transfer was not trivial. Also, I happened to record a total of probably 45 minutes of video which was also uploaded.

I do not have a dataplan - I just log into free wifi when available. Still, lots of people pay per mb or something, and the amount of data used for uploading the files is not neglectable.

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All in all, I feel this is an inapropreate invasion into my privacy and quite disturbing.

I am aware that this is probably something which I agread to in the small print somewhere along the line, but I feel this is an issue which should not be in small print but should be made explicit. It also feels inapropreate that this is a standard feature which is automatically on. (I did *not* unintantionally activate it, as I never bothered to mess with settings in the first place. I was just curios, took a look at it, got bored, and forgot it.)

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Anyway. I am quite turned off from the whole google experience by this. Just felt like sharing. I'd be interested to hear what you people here think. Also, if there is a forum or some place where people are interested in these issues, and where it is more on topic, please point me to it. I feel like this is not trivial.

p.
http://embodimentlabs.tumblr.com/
http://paulstrohmeier.info/

mowcius

I have not heard of that from my other friends who use the app on their android phones but interesting none the less.

Valalvax

I've seen friends who thought it was awesome, but thought they were told about it

I didn't need an invite, I wanted a friend add :P I got it now

fkeel


oh well... ive come to the conclusion, that somewhere along the line i must have given my ok to it, as google claims that it is not turned on by default and I am not thaaat paranoid...anyway, app is uninstalled, problem solved.

yeah, its funny how one and the same feature can be percieved cool by some and really disturbing by others... just shows that maybe I am a bit more paranoid than I think I am...
http://embodimentlabs.tumblr.com/
http://paulstrohmeier.info/

biocow

I knew about the images being uploaded but then again I followed the announcement. I was one of the key "features" of the app and Google+ working together to make it more simple to share photos. They all get uploaded to a private area only you can see, then it's up to you to share them out.

I understand your concern that even though they are "private" now Google has a copy.

I believe it's turned off by default. (I don't have an Android phone) Here is the page in their help docs...

http://www.google.com/support/profiles/bin/static.py?page=guide.cs&guide=1257351&answer=1304818
10 PRINT CHR$(7)
20 GOTO 10

westfw

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but they are on some server, out of my control.

That's pretty much "The Google Way", isn't it?  Google Docs, Google mail, Picassa, ... all of it.

I dunno.  What's better about google+ than facebook?  It's real hard to tell at the current size.

IMO, Facebook succeeded because it attracted significant cross-generational socializing (whereas myspace and linkedin had more specific age-groups associated with them.)  Google's initial social networking effort ("Orkut") didn't do so well...

All the "social networking" sites seem to do really badly when it comes to maintaining the sort of semi-technical forum like we have here.  Even vendor-run sites aimed specifically at engineers (element14, eeweb, freescale, ti, and microchip forums) seem to have a lot of trouble maintaining any sense of "community."

Valalvax

I think FB suceeded at first because it was exclusive to college students (well first harvard students but whatever) and so people who wanted to avoid grade school kids could use it, back then no ones mom was on Myspace, so they really didn't need to avoid that...

fkeel



IMO, Facebook succeeded because it attracted significant cross-generational socializing (whereas myspace and linkedin had more specific age-groups associated with them.) 


I agrea with that. The reason why I started using facebook is becouse my mother and grandmother use it...
Initially it may have succeeded on other grounds, but now the cross-generation aspect is probably one of the strongest thing it has going for it.

http://embodimentlabs.tumblr.com/
http://paulstrohmeier.info/

Valalvax




IMO, Facebook succeeded because it attracted significant cross-generational socializing (whereas myspace and linkedin had more specific age-groups associated with them.) 


I agrea with that. The reason why I started using facebook is becouse my mother and grandmother use it...
Initially it may have succeeded on other grounds, but now the cross-generation aspect is probably one of the strongest thing it has going for it.




Oh yea, I agree with that too, I meant the reason it beat MySpace...

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