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[Reply #30 on:]

I just spent 18 hours straight on a client project and needed a distraction, it's all good fun  ;D

[Reply #31 on:]

Hi,
...I might have missed something ?
The Moderndevice Website carries the Freeduino logo, but no production Layout/Gerber-Files  for the BareBonesBoard?
If I simply was to dumb to find them on the site, I apologize,
but otherwise what exactly is the "more-open-than-the-Arduino-factor" of the Freeduino project?

Eberhard

Hi Eberhard: moderndevice.com just posted schematic, Gerber and CAD files for the Barebones....
http://www.moderndevice.com/BBB_Rev_C_CAD_Files.zip
under CC 2.5, cuz they're cool

D

[Reply #32 on:]

Hi,
before I go on : I like the Freeduino idea but...

Freeduino update:
Paul Badger at Moderndevice.com and Brian Riley at Wulfden.org take the prize for selling the first Freeduino-branded products!
Ok we seriously 'Freeduino' need hats now.

...I might have missed something ?
The Moderndevice Website carries the Freeduino logo, but no production Layout/Gerber-Files  for the BareBonesBoard?
If I simply was to dumb to find them on the site, I apologize,
but otherwise what exactly is the "more-open-than-the-Arduino-factor" of the Freeduino project?

Eberhard

 While Paul only just now posted the Gerber files, the board layout has been in the documentation for months ....

  cheers ... BBR

[Reply #33 on:]

I am completely happy now!

Hi Eberhard: moderndevice.com just posted schematic, Gerber and CAD files for the Barebones....
 http://www.moderndevice.com/BBB_Rev_C_CAD_Files.zip
 under CC 2.5, cuz they're cool Smiley

I know the Arduino-Thingy is still under surveilliance of the original team
and
there is an open-hardware-style project-fork.
  
Thank you!
Eberhard

[Reply #34 on:]

hmm i think i want a THM version (except for the 232rl) of the diecimila...as it would be a great kit when the diecimila's are out of stock and people are desperately needing arduinos (you think im kidding, but i've had people ring my doorbell during dinner because they want an arduino)
Id like to use the freeduino design, is the schematic pretty much good to go?

also, btw, im pretty sure you only need to put TM on the first legible mention of a trademark...(ie the freeduino webpage)

[Reply #35 on:]

I'd be very happy to have you look at the freeduino PCB design; your experience with actual commercial kit construction would be very valuable.  Right now there are 0603 and slightly older 0805 SMT layouts, and we're
debating whether 1206 is (a) possible and/or (b) necessary and sufficient for amateur construction (from kits or bare boards.)  Have Daniel add  you to the list of people with access to the pre-publication file area.

[Reply #36 on:]

hmm i think i want a THM version (except for the 232rl) of the diecimila...as it would be a great kit when the diecimila's are out of stock and people are desperately needing arduinos (you think im kidding, but i've had people ring my doorbell during dinner because they want an arduino)
Id like to use the freeduino design, is the schematic pretty much good to go?

also, btw, im pretty sure you only need to put TM on the first legible mention of a trademark...(ie the freeduino webpage)

Ladyada, THM version is ready and published as Arduino^TM USB 2.2.

I have the eagle files, if you are interested.  And the construction instructions are in: http://www.vintagecomputercables.com/usbdm22/USBAssembly.html

Enjoy!

[Reply #37 on:]

I'd be very happy to have you look at the freeduino PCB design; your experience with actual commercial kit construction would be very valuable.  Right now there are 0603 and slightly older 0805 SMT layouts, and we're
debating whether 1206 is (a) possible and/or (b) necessary and sufficient for amateur construction (from kits or bare boards.)  Have Daniel add  you to the list of people with access to the pre-publication file area.

ill take a look at it this weekend, i just have to wrap up some other work today..

i think 1206 is -necessary- for hand assembly. 0603 is great for machines but certainly no fun, even for 'experts' like me

[Reply #38 on:]

1206 is about the smallest I want to deal with a regular basis as well,  but I'm not sure it's "good enough" for average kit assemblers, especially with that SMT USB chip to deal with as well.  It might be better to stick with nkc's TH version.  (so how well does it work, and how much does it cast, having a single SMT component attached to the "bare board" like that?  I've seen a couple of places that do it, and I think it's a fine fix as far as the end customer is concerned...)

[Reply #39 on:]

well there are two options. one is that the seller presolders/tests the USB (i do this with the x0xb0x kit) another is having a 6-pin header that allows use of a USB cable such as that used by Modern Devices

[Reply #40 on:]

I am also pre-soldering the FT232BL chip... no problems reported so far... I think it is also feasible with the FT232RL.

[Reply #41 on:]

A mere 18 days since this thread began, things are moving along swimmingly in Freeduino-land. Here's the latest mockup of the 1206 Freeduino board, by Westfw. A through-hole version is also coming down the line shortly.

Behold the future of really open hardware, Dude. Ooh I feel so religious right now. Seriously though, it is kind of amazing what four people who've never met can do in a couple of weeks, working after dinner. Ok, one of those people is an insanely talented silicon-valley type engineer, but hey, in general, isn't this what open hardware is supposed to be about?

You know, after we're done copying the existing Italian-made "master works" (think Davinci), then it should get really interesting.

[Reply #42 on:]

PS

I probably shouldn't be showing this around, but here is what the Freeduino workshop looks like at the moment:

[Reply #43 on:]

 ;D ;D ;D

True recorded conversations from tech support.

10:39am Customer: Good afternoon, this is Martha, I can't print. Every time I try it says "Can't find printer". I've even lifted the printer and placed it in front of the monitor, but the computer still says he can't find it.

02:21pm Helpdesk: What antivirus program do you use?
02:22pm Customer: Netscape.
02:22pm Helpdesk: That's not an antivirus program.
02:30pm Customer: Oh, sorry, Internet Explorer.

[Reply #44 on:]

Seeing as you lot are doing this i have a related question.

Would it be possible to upgrade the FTDI chip for the Dual UART/FIFO version?
http://www.ftdichip.com/FTProducts.htm#FT2232C

Could the second interface be connected to the ISP pins & therefore the ATmega socket?
This could make Arduino/Freeduino self programmable & a programmer.

Maybe in the future various shields with sockets for ATmega or ATtiny or even AVR32/DSP could be designed, i realize the software would need to support this.

Feel free to put me right if i misunderstand anything!