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David Cuartielles

Jan 18, 2011, 12:41 pm Last Edit: Jan 18, 2011, 12:43 pm by DojoDave Reason: 1
PLEASE CHECK THIS BLOG POST: http://arduino.cc/blog/2011/01/18/forum_migration_jan_24/

Twitt it, Facebook it, shout out loud we're making it

mowcius

Anyone else think a lack of migration is a major concern?

What forum type are we going to?
Is migration not possible or have you just chosen not to do it for some reason?

Mowcius

Selby96

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Anyone else think a lack of migration is a major concern?



Yes.

orbitalair

Yeah its cheap.  How is it people can make a data repository, and NOT know HOW to move the data?

As for the "new" features, who cares?

1. rearranged?  so?
2. pictures video?  don't care, can't view videos thru the corp firewall anyway.
3. email, new profiles?  meh
4. help page for newcomers?  this made me laugh, newbies never read anything.
5. pop-ups???  are you serious, as if ANYONE wants MORE popups.
6. look and feel?  branding?  so?

So the ONLY thing that would be considered important, years of searchable forum messages, will be dumped?  

Can we just continue to use the old forum, and ignore the new one? Now that sounds like a plan.


pwillard

I can't help feeling this is going to be sort of messy.

Good luck.

robtillaart

Does the new forum handle SPAM in a proper way?
Or will there be a separate section for commercial messages?
Rob Tillaart

Nederlandse sectie - http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php/board,77.0.html -
(Please do not PM for private consultancy)

David Cuartielles

orbitalair, mowcius:

as for moving the data, it is actually pretty simple, thing is ... if you are willing to rearrange 350664 Posts within 49236 Topics from 37469 registered members into the categories of the new forum, I will be more than happy to pass the task over to you guys.

;-)

That was obviously a joke. Now seriously, thing is that over the last 5 years this forum has generated a lot of data which is valuable to many, however there is also a lot of the same question asked many many times. We want to have a clean start also bringing the community in acting as moderators to curate the best forum possible.

The information will still be available and you will keep your user name and profile. If there are interesting posts or opened topics you want to keep on working with, you are more than welcome to bring them in. It is our goal to offer a more inclusive system that will also allow for non-english speaking people to have more and better subcategories, etc.

orbitalair:

I know you personally don't care about rebranding the forum to look as the Arduino forum, but there have been others that have asked for the opposite. It is a matter of opinion, as you know.

Sure we could make this on Yabb, but it is a fact, and this has been a complain from people for some time, that Yabb is running on Perl and that makes it very slow for the pace of growth Arduino is experiencing. Just to give you some numbers, our online system registers over 30.000.000 hits per month, with over 600.000 unique IPs, that eats the 8CPUs of our machine pretty fast, so optimizing and moving to a DB based system is crucial.

mowcius:

Regarding the forum system we are moving into, it is a strongly tweaked version of SMF. We made a survey over a group of users and there were no clear preferences for any of the forums under evaluation.

We have implemented our own user profiling system and a menu bar "Google style", that will allow users know where in the site they are, whether they are logged in or not, and whether they have editing rights for a certain page. We have in the pipeline implementing other services, but without making this move, we weren't able of making it the proper way.

cr0sh

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Regarding the forum system we are moving into, it is a strongly tweaked version of SMF.


David - please say that whatever you're doing, you're keeping the old smiley emoticons; I mean, I really love the ones here on YaBB - other forums I'm on (I guess my guess of vBulletin was wrong, btw) the emoticons just don't look good. The ones on YaBB are clean, concise, and convey what they need to convey nearly perfectly.

-sigh-

So - how is "number of posts" going to be handled? Will everybody go back to "newbie" status? How will real newbies (ie - those who just bought their first Arduino Uno) know the "old timer god members" (those who have had an Arduino for a while, or those who have an original hand-soldered homebuilt ATMega8 board from way-back-when)?

That would have to be my main concern (waaay above the emoticon issue!)...

:)
I will not respond to Arduino help PM's from random forum users; if you have such a question, start a new topic thread.

jada

A lot of EXPECTATIONS as well as DOUBTS ! the only thing i can do is to [size=12]WAIT AND SEE [/size]
and yeah I guess every one out here loves these emoticons  :)
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So - how is "number of posts" going to be handled? Will everybody go back to "newbie" status?

Though that wouldn't mean much to me at least the REAL GOD'S out there should have their status to themselves ( lol i would be even happier if even i have a title God member ;) )

P.S i never had any idea this was really going to happen

Big Oil

Make an open source community program to transfer all the data.

Federico

Perhaps it could be possible to integrate the actual forum in the search engine of the new one? Hope this is "migration" is decided not to have less duplicates, because I think that the same questions are going to be asked forever...
Federico - Sideralis
Arduino &C: http://www.sideralis.org
Foto: http://blackman.amicofigo.com

Osgeld

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Jan 18, 2011, 06:50 pm Last Edit: Jan 18, 2011, 06:52 pm by Osgeld Reason: 1
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as for moving the data, it is actually pretty simple, thing is ... if you are willing to rearrange 350664 Posts within 49236 Topics from 37469 registered members into the categories of the new forum, I will be more than happy to pass the task over to you guys.


I will do it, that is one of the things a computer can handle, now which forum system are you moving to so I can start to prepare, and when can I expect a copy of the data

not joking (I may not be successful but I will at least try my best, and I have moved a forum nearly as large over 4 systems to get from A to B with a rotten database)
http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php?action=unread;boards=2,3,4,5,67,6,7,8,9,10,11,66,12,13,15,14,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,86,87,89,1;ALL

cr0sh

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I may not be successful but I will at least try my best, and I have moved a forum nearly as large over 4 systems to get from A to B with a rotten database


Be careful what you ask for, Osgeld... ;)

Based on the blog posting (and I may be completely wrong about this), there seemed to be the implication that this current forum -isn't- using a DB back-end under Perl (flat text files, anyone?)...

If true, such a system could be a real nightmare to migrate without some serious script-fu to stuff the data from those files into a DB properly. It wouldn't be impossible, but it wouldn't be quick nor easy, either.

Good luck if you manage to pull the task!

:)
I will not respond to Arduino help PM's from random forum users; if you have such a question, start a new topic thread.

Osgeld

it is a flat file system, but step 1 is to get it into SMF,which there are scripts available already, from there it can be converted to just about anything
;)
http://arduino.cc/forum/index.php?action=unread;boards=2,3,4,5,67,6,7,8,9,10,11,66,12,13,15,14,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,86,87,89,1;ALL

mowcius

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Jan 18, 2011, 09:36 pm Last Edit: Jan 18, 2011, 09:36 pm by mowcius Reason: 1
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as for moving the data, it is actually pretty simple, thing is ... if you are willing to rearrange 350664 Posts within 49236 Topics from 37469 registered members into the categories of the new forum, I will be more than happy to pass the task over to you guys.

Yeah I'm willing to help with this.

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So - how is "number of posts" going to be handled? Will everybody go back to "newbie" status? How will real newbies (ie - those who just bought their first Arduino Uno) know the "old timer god members" (those who have had an Arduino for a while, or those who have an original hand-soldered homebuilt ATMega8 board from way-back-when)?

Also a concern.

Presumably post counts could be manually edited in the system. Give everyone the post count they currently have.
Also what about 'member since' - is that going to be reverted? - Please no...

And my private messages?
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Good Evening mowcius, you have 274 messages, and no new messages.

What's to happen with them if the system gets changed - can I still access them at least?

Mowcius

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