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We had goal to make Arduino like board by KiCAD.
And we have done a board named SafeDuino.
SafeDuino is an Arduino compatible board. Made for power isolation. Made for boxes. (http://bit.ly/rF1Xfj) SafeDuino is software compatible with Arduino Uno. Its slots are compatible too.
 
We made boards in FINELINE (http://www.fineline-global.com/).  Components mounting we made by FINELINE Russia.

KiCAD and Arduino are easy and possible!


More https://picasaweb.google.com/109660789457407032533/SafeduinoHome?authuser=0&feat=directlink

May be will Arduino project use KiCAD EDA?
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Anything's possible.

But if one has paid for the commercial version of a program, why go back to something else?
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For business point of view there is no need. But for open hardware there is important. IMHO
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The free hobbyist version of Eagle is plenty for most folks.

The design is open hardware - you are free to impement it using any tool you like.
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Once experienced with your tool, it doesn't take long to impement the design either if the symbols exist, not a whole lot of parts there.
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Can you use KiCAD in Windows? And what about Mac OSX?

You actually kinda replied to the question yourself when you said:

For business point of view there is no need. But for open hardware there is important. IMHO

If it is open, it should be for everyone (or as many as possible) and not just for people using GNU/Linux. Therefor, Eagle is pretty much the best solution for the schematics.
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Some of the Arduino team use Macs. 

I imagine they used Eagle for the same reason I do.

KiCAD doesn't run on OS X, Eagle does. 
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Also, when Arduino first shipped, KICAD didn't exist...
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KiCAD isn't that good, or at least I don't like it in comparison with EAGLE.
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Also, when Arduino first shipped, KICAD didn't exist...


And Eagle goes, at least, as far back as 2000.
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Thank everybody for your answers.
I didn't know about problems of KiCAD in Mac OS:(
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Maybe through MacPorts? Someday?

But Eagle works well in Mac OSX.

Another thing that is important is the fact that once you get started using this kind of software you start creating your own footprints and components and it gets harder and harder to change. Unless you can export libraries freely between softwares.
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KiCAD COMPILES for Mac.  It just doesn't seem to work.  It's hard to tell whether anyone is working on the problem(s)

I thought it was WONDERFUL when EAGLE started supporting Macs, and I thought there initial "compromise" where they took the linux/X11 version and made it work under MacX (Apple supported X11 for MacOS) was brilliant; I wish more vendors who did linux SW would do that.  The native macos version is much prettier, but these are engineering tools, and "working" is more important than "pretty native gui."
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KiCAD COMPILES for Mac.  It just doesn't seem to work.  It's hard to tell whether anyone is working on the problem(s)

I thought it was WONDERFUL when EAGLE started supporting Macs, and I thought there initial "compromise" where they took the linux/X11 version and made it work under MacX (Apple supported X11 for MacOS) was brilliant; I wish more vendors who did linux SW would do that.  The native macos version is much prettier, but these are engineering tools, and "working" is more important than "pretty native gui."


Wireshark works over X11 as well. smiley
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KiCAD is available for Linux, Windows and OS X (see & see).

I have used it on OS X with some success and my impression is that Windows is fully supported. Building it was non-trivial last time I tried but there are a number of sites with OS X snapshots linked from the Downloads page so I just download a pre-built snapshot when needed. (I also ran the Windows version under WINE on OS X at one time.)

FWIW it's been a while since I last downloaded a snapshot and I'm not currently on an OS X box so I can't verify for you that the latest snapshot is happy.

--Philip;

P.S. It's debatable whether or not KiCAD was around when the Arduino was designed given its apparent first release was sometime between 1992-2004 according to Wikipedia & email archives. smiley
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