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jwatte

100 MHz is not fast enough that RF theory is needed, AFAICT. However, I don't imagine you'd be happy if you run a clock signal through 10 vias and two laps around the board :-)

I really don't think there's a lot of room in the market for something like this, though. It's already super crowded. If you want simple software, and a wide range of compatible plug-and-play hardware, you need shield compatibility, and ideally Arduino IDE compatibility. For everything else, the Raspberry Pi really hits the nail at $35 (or $25 without networking.) And, if for some reason you don't like those, there's still a phletora of boards like mBED, LPCExpresso, BeagleBone, PandaBoard, Gumstix, etc.

Graynomad

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How difficult is it to design a minimal ARM environment?

AFAIK (and remember I haven't got a board made yet) it's not difficult, all the signals seem pretty straight forward. I am using a 4-layer board with power and ground plains mostly because it seems like a good idea and makes the layout a LOT easier. Whether or not it's required I don't know.

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Also, how forgiving of questionable layout are these, at ~100MHz?

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100 MHz is not fast enough that RF theory is needed,

Bear in mind that there really isn't any 100MHz stuff outside the chip, I have paid special attention to the USB and microSD signals. Also external memory is on the backplane so it's a fair guess that it won't run at full speed.

Most other signals are normal IO which shouldn't be too hard to handle. The SAM also has on-board terminating resistors on all IO pins.

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I really don't think there's a lot of room in the market for something like this, though.

Quite possibly, I've always done things for the fun of it so that doesn't really matter to me.

That said AFAIK none of those board have this combination of features, whether or not these features are of interest to people is another story :)

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Graynomad

Just for fun, a very rough mock up of a breadboardable no-frills version in the "aircraft carrier" form factor.



It would need two BBs but I don't see any problem with that.

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Graynomad

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Apr 29, 2012, 06:10 am Last Edit: Apr 29, 2012, 02:28 pm by Graynomad Reason: 1
A recent tweet from the Arduino team

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the processor is a SAM3/X from ATMEL


This is one nice chip (depending on the actual model used), looks like a re design is in the air :)

Also hopefully this snippet of information means the release is close.

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SirNickity

I also have my eye on the Beagle Bone, but if yours were available (either form factor, though the BB-compatible one suits my taste better), I would have to get a couple.  For what it's worth.

Nantonos

So, is this still on the cards now that the  Due (and the 1.5 toolchain beta) is available?

Graynomad

Afraid not, as I said on the other post I've pretty much lost interest in doing a Due clone, mostly because I think there are about 500 people doing just that as we speak, not to mention existing boards like the Teensy 3.0 that have a similar form factor.

I am working on an ARM board at present and will send off for PCBs today probably. But this is a dual processor board with an LPC1227 and an Atmega1284 designed for monitoring and control networks, a totally different idea to the above.

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Nantonos

Fair enough (I was aware it was an old thread, but was curious to see if there was ongoing work). Thanks for responding.

westfw

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I think there are about 500 people doing just that

yeah; I've come to realize that there are any number of "interesting" sort-of-arduino systems that could be made, that aren't really much good for the community as a whole.  If anything, there are already too many variants...

Graynomad

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If anything, there are already too many variants...

Like trying to decide on which toothbrush to buy these days.

I suppose my board won't help but it certainly will have a point of difference for what that's worth.

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JoeN

I get that Armalite is a play on words for ARM , but Armalite is a trademark of the company that invented the M-16 rifle which was originally called the Armalite and they have kept those trademarks current.  Are there no gun geeks here?

http://www.armalite.com/Categories.aspx?Category=538b8c3c-6710-4282-839f-fb5caf8043a3
I have only come here seeking knowledge. Things they would not teach me of in college.

Graynomad

Yes, at the time I thought that may be a problem if the board went anywhere. Probably not a good company to piss off eh :)

It's moot though because I won't be making the board.

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reha

Hi,
I'm looking for "very simple" design of Due (I need fast processor, huge memory but I dont need more ports)..  Any one developed one? or what should be the "minimum" components that sufficient to run "AT91SAM3X8E" in Arduino environment? many thanks in advance, reha


bobcousins


Hi,
I'm looking for "very simple" design of Due (I need fast processor, huge memory but I dont need more ports)..  Any one developed one? or what should be the "minimum" components that sufficient to run "AT91SAM3X8E" in Arduino environment? many thanks in advance, reha


You really need to define what you mean by huge. I think the SAM3X supports something like 128 MB.

I haven't seen any SAM3X board with an external memory though. For a minimal design, look in the Due forum.
Please don't PM me asking for help. Ask questions in the forum.

westfw


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